User talk:Umbra King7991

Frame data for Witch Twist (SSBU)

NOTE: SmashWiki is not speculative. Please refrain from adding detailed data values derived from pre-release gameplay footage, such as the E3 demo. Such data (damage values, launch trajectories, frame data, etc.) are subject to change before the official release.

This banner is on every character page, including Bayonetta's. I noticed you got upset when someone reverted a previous attempt to add frame data, but that is why you were reverted the first time, and why you were reverted the second time. Please wait until the game drops before trying to add frame numbers anywhere, please. Thank you. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 17:30, 14 November 2018 (EST)

Please stop putting in frame data for Bayonetta in Ultimate. We aren't speculative as Black Vulpine said. If the frame data holds true after release, you may add it back. Until then don't add it back. Corrin Fan 17:27, 15 November 2018 (EST)

I did attempt to reword my phrase regarding the change that didn't include specific numbers! But, you still think the buff is a lie when I can easily prove that the angle HAS changed in some way! Umbra King7991 (talk) 16:46, 17 November 2018 (EST)

What I added to the Wiki was NOT speculative whatsoever! Umbra King7991 (talk) 16:49, 17 November 2018 (EST)

Oh...wait, we're talking about Witch Twist here? Ok, I see why you're mad. I understood what I did wrong there, but, why can't I put "snap to the ledge" instead of "grab the ledge"??? Umbra King7991 (talk) 16:51, 17 November 2018 (EST)

I honestly don't even care about my Witch Twist note being deleted. I was in the wrong there. I'm sorry. I'm just confused as to why I can't say "snap" to the ledge. Umbra King7991 (talk) 16:57, 17 November 2018 (EST)

I'm not the person who removed your edit, but I'm guessing because they're pretty much the same thing. SugarCookie420 (talk) 16:58, 17 November 2018 (EST)

The only difference is that "snap" is the competitive term. Umbra King7991 (talk) 17:59, 17 November 2018 (EST)

Changes to Downwards After Burner Kick

So, I've been trying to add a note on Bayonetta's Wiki regarding a noticable change in launch angle on DAB Kick and this Corrin Fan keeps deleting it! I understand, now, that specific numbers can't be used pre-launch! So, I tried to reword my phrase and my buff note [which I can prove to be correct] is still being deleted even though I'm not using numbered variables anymore! Other characters' Wikis have notes of launch angle changes on their moves and nobody's complaining about it! Yet, Corrin Fan keeps deleting my buff note on DAB Kick! Why?!?! Umbra King7991 (talk) 16:44, 17 November 2018 (EST)

Next time provide us a link as to where you found that in your edit summary, or a video that shows this. It'll help somewhat. SugarCookie420 (talk) 16:57, 17 November 2018 (EST)

That's a good idea, actually. I'll add my note back and put a link and timestamp of my proof. Umbra King7991 (talk) 17:00, 17 November 2018 (EST)

At this point, since your edit has been reverted multiple times, you should talk about it in the talk page first, courtesy of SW:1RV. SugarCookie420 (talk) 17:02, 17 November 2018 (EST)

I don't care. I'm going to keep re adding it and putting my evidence in my edit summary until the change stays in the Wiki! Umbra King7991 (talk) 17:46, 17 November 2018 (EST)

No you're not. See SW:1RV for details on edit warring, which is what you are doing. Specific data points are not to go on this wiki until such a time as they can be proven, in this case, when the game comes out. Continuation of this behavior will result in your block. Serpent  King 17:53, 17 November 2018 (EST)

But, I'm not putting any specific data points at all! So, how could I be violating it! Umbra King7991 (talk) 18:01, 17 November 2018 (EST)

You're violating SW:1RV because you continuously add in your info despite having it undone multiple times. No matter if it's correct or not, when your post is reverted, you talk about it on the talk page and not undo the revert, as this causes edit wars. SugarCookie420 (talk) 18:04, 17 November 2018 (EST)

Also, your last attempt is still too specific, as the 'better angle for combos' part is considered to be 'competitive expertise'. While we want as much of that as we can get for a COMPLETE game, info for a game that hasn't been released is speculative. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 18:08, 17 November 2018 (EST)