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We understand that tiers are a point of contention among members of the Smash community. However, this page discusses the tier-lists that the Smash Back Room (for Melee and Brawl) and the GameFAQs forums (for the original) have posted. These are accepted by almost every high level player and as such are important and notable content to this wiki. Discussion on this talk page should be limited to the content of the page, not a debate on the existence or ordering of tiers. Those should both be addressed in the Forums.

Bias

I don't mean to cause any trouble here, but after thouroughly reading this article, it appears that the editor has a biased opinion towards tiers. With such a debated subject, shouldn't you be a bit more neutral? ¿Roderigo? (talk) 02:28, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

No. They are quite real, as any Smash professional will tell you. How people interpret them and if they care are their own decisions, but their existence is hard to deny. Miles (talk) 02:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Okay, then. I really don't mind either way; I just go with any character I want, regardless if they're the best or the worst.

Split?

I have a bit of a feeling that this page should just cover what a tier list is and some of the other general things about it. Then we could have "Tier list (SSB)" and the like that could go into more detail on why that list has the order it does (from the SBR's reasoning). Any thoughts? Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 03:45, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

May you get into further detail as to what you want to do? Y462 (TCE ) 04:06, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
As long as you can get SBR's reasoning, then it's worth considering. Giving reasoning to anything here is gonna start a war, though. Also, does someone know the system SBR uses to make the tiers?Cheezperson {talk}stuff 05:22, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Tournament play, genius. Blue NinjakoopaTalk 18:11, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Matchups and Tournament records. - Hatake91 (talk) 22:08, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
I meant how they weight everything, and their numbers system. I don't know if anyone knows that, but... Cheezperson {talk}stuff 23:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Explanations

I think that the article should include a decent explanation on why the characters are in the tiers that they are in. For example, I don't know why Meta Knight and Snake are so high, and I think that the page should explain why general consensus says that Meta Knight is the best. Madara uchiha99 (talk), Kanji: うちは マダラ 九十九, Romaji: Uchiha madara kyū-jū-kyū 17:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

We have the links to the SBR threads. Most of the discussion and information is there. We also put some of it for each character on their fighter pages. There would just be too much information to make it work on this one page. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 17:34, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


WTF?

OMG 1: Ness and Lucas tied on SSBB
OMG 2: What, Fox on SSBM isn't 10.0? It's 9.9!? Willneverbeapro (talk) 04:37, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Forums. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 04:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

stupid

very stupid they are.....tr4qs

Forums please. --Posted by Pikamander2 (Talk) at 23:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Japanese Tier List

Japan Tier List
S A B C D E F G

1. Meta Knight 2. Snake
3. Falco

4. R.O.B.
5. Diddy Kong 6. Marth
7. Pit
8. Fox

9. Mr. Game & Watch
10. Wolf
11. Toon Link

12. Ice Climbers
13. Olimar
14. Sheik
15. Zero Suit Samus
16. Pikachu
17. Lucario

18. Kirby
19. King Dedede 20. Mario
21. Lucas
22. Wario

23. Zelda
24. Ike
25. Donkey Kong
26. Ness
27. Link
28. Luigi
29. Yoshi
30. Pokemon Trainer

31. Sonic
32. Bowser
33. Samus
34. Captain Falcon
35. Jigglypuff
36. Peach

37. Ganondorf

LOL!! Majorabrawl (talk) 02:44, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

That's not the Japanese tier list, it's just your revision. Next time, take it to the forums plz. Blue Ninjakoopa 17:25, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Forums?

What forums, and where? Hyper Zergling (talk) 19:36, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Here are the links to the Brawl tier list thread and the Melee tier list thread. --Posted by Pikamander2 (Talk) at 19:56, 12 February 2009 (UTC)