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While I have contributed to the Sheik list for roughly 36% of the players on here, looking at the list now, this seems disproportionately huge for a game that hasn't even been out in North America for a full month. To put it in perspective, '''[[Meta_Knight_%28SSBB%29#Notable_players|this list is already more than half the size of the Meta Knight list from Brawl]]''', as well as being '''[[Fox_%28SSBM%29#Notable_players|roughly 41% of the size of the Fox list from Melee, including both active and inactive players]]'''. My suggestion would be to wait until after at least [[Apex 2015]] before having these sections on the character pages, regardless of whether Japan continues to get 150+ players for 3DS tournaments. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 15:27, 27 October 2014 (EDT) | While I have contributed to the Sheik list for roughly 36% of the players on here, looking at the list now, this seems disproportionately huge for a game that hasn't even been out in North America for a full month. To put it in perspective, '''[[Meta_Knight_%28SSBB%29#Notable_players|this list is already more than half the size of the Meta Knight list from Brawl]]''', as well as being '''[[Fox_%28SSBM%29#Notable_players|roughly 41% of the size of the Fox list from Melee, including both active and inactive players]]'''. My suggestion would be to wait until after at least [[Apex 2015]] before having these sections on the character pages, regardless of whether Japan continues to get 150+ players for 3DS tournaments. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 15:27, 27 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
:'''Oppose'''. There's no reason to wait; the players main the characters, and it's unlikely that they're going to change mains (in a major way; safe for a few players) by Apex 2015. Most smashers will, most likely, main the same characters at Apex 2015 as what they main now. <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 15:31, 27 October 2014 (EDT) | :'''Oppose'''. There's no reason to wait; the players main the characters, and it's unlikely that they're going to change mains (in a major way; safe for a few players) by Apex 2015. Most smashers will, most likely, main the same characters at Apex 2015 as what they main now. <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 15:31, 27 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
::Players like {{Sm|9B}} and {{Sm|RAIN}} have already switched their mains within this short time period. The metagame will also likely change when the Wii U version drops as well, and I can guarantee you that there will | ::Players like {{Sm|9B}} and {{Sm|RAIN}} have already switched their mains within this short time period. The metagame will also likely change when the Wii U version drops as well, and I can guarantee you that there will be pro players that will switch mains due to this. In the end, players are still experimenting on the 3DS version. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 15:35, 27 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
Revision as of 15:40, October 27, 2014
Recovery Nerf
I'd say that this is a notable nerf, considering that from what I've seen Sheik can't use her chain to grab ledges anymore. I don't know why it'd be removed. (Even if Bouncing Fish helps a bit with recovering, it seems to be gimpable by simply touching her while she uses it) Laikue (talk) 12:33, 21 July 2014 (EDT)
- Tether recoveries are bad in Brawl because you can edgehog them. The new down B isn't as good as the Captain Jack recovery (transforming into Zelda for a higher double jump and to up B) but I think it's better than a tether.--BrianDon't try me!
14:11, 21 July 2014 (EDT)
- But, that's the point, Sheik's current recovery options are worse than her old ones, so shouldn't it be listed as a nerf on the page? Also due to the new edge mechanics a tether would help her recovery. Laikue (talk) 14:56, 21 July 2014 (EDT)
- Also, it seems I completely forgot to mention the recovery nerf I was initially complaining about was the removal of Zelda's Teleport. I'm just thought I typed that part out, but obviously I didn't.... Laikue (talk) 14:58, 21 July 2014 (EDT)
Notable players
While I have contributed to the Sheik list for roughly 36% of the players on here, looking at the list now, this seems disproportionately huge for a game that hasn't even been out in North America for a full month. To put it in perspective, this list is already more than half the size of the Meta Knight list from Brawl, as well as being roughly 41% of the size of the Fox list from Melee, including both active and inactive players. My suggestion would be to wait until after at least Apex 2015 before having these sections on the character pages, regardless of whether Japan continues to get 150+ players for 3DS tournaments. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 15:27, 27 October 2014 (EDT)
- Oppose. There's no reason to wait; the players main the characters, and it's unlikely that they're going to change mains (in a major way; safe for a few players) by Apex 2015. Most smashers will, most likely, main the same characters at Apex 2015 as what they main now. Rtzxy
Smashing! 15:31, 27 October 2014 (EDT)
- Players like 9B and RAIN have already switched their mains within this short time period. The metagame will also likely change when the Wii U version drops as well, and I can guarantee you that there will be pro players that will switch mains due to this. In the end, players are still experimenting on the 3DS version. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 15:35, 27 October 2014 (EDT)
