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There are no differences in the basic properties of Lucina's normals and specials, with the exception of the tipper mechanic. This goes for Chrom vs Roy too (except for up special). Lucina's attacks, in general, are 12% more effective than Marth's sourspots, and 25% less effective than Marth's sweetspots. In general, Marth has a higher total damage output because of this. Lucina's consistency is certainly not without merit. Lucina's up tilt actually emulates Marth's move in terms of timing. The same strats can be used with both fighters, since their framedata and attributes are identical. Also, can we stop with the "More Unique Echo Fighter" thing? --[[User:Tuffingtons|Tuffingtons]] ([[User talk:Tuffingtons|talk]]) 15:58, 18 January 2019 (EST)
There are no differences in the basic properties of Lucina's normals and specials, with the exception of the tipper mechanic. This goes for Chrom vs Roy too (except for up special). Lucina's attacks, in general, are 12% more effective than Marth's sourspots, and 25% less effective than Marth's sweetspots. In general, Marth has a higher total damage output because of this. Lucina's consistency is certainly not without merit. Lucina's up tilt actually emulates Marth's move in terms of timing. The same strats can be used with both fighters, since their framedata and attributes are identical. Also, can we stop with the "More Unique Echo Fighter" thing? --[[User:Tuffingtons|Tuffingtons]] ([[User talk:Tuffingtons|talk]]) 15:58, 18 January 2019 (EST)
:It is impossible to make a statement about whose damage is higher without accounting for rates of successful tipping with actual evidence, which you do not have. Please refrain from edit warring. &ndash; [[User:Emmett|<span style="color:#000000">Emmett</span>]] 16:17, 18 January 2019 (EST)
:It is impossible to make a statement about whose damage is higher without accounting for rates of successful tipping with actual evidence, which you do not have. Please refrain from edit warring. &ndash; [[User:Emmett|<span style="color:#000000">Emmett</span>]] 16:17, 18 January 2019 (EST)
Hello memoryman3. You’re being very disruptive on this page. First of all, as experience as a Lucina main, I can tell you with certainty that she and Marth can’t play the same way. While definitely not to the extent Chrom and Ken are, she is still unique for an echo fighter. Secondly, it is fairly notable that she is he only echo fighter who has a different screen KO, and it’s important to go into detail about how he lack of a tipper affects them (such as not being able to secure KOs). Thirdly, Lucina’s up tilt does not emulate Marth’s tipper because marth’s tipper also deals more knockback. Lucina’s ting-based sweetspot deals more damage, but also less knockback. So knock it off memeoryman3. [[Special:Contributions/99.203.10.238|99.203.10.238]] 16:50, 18 January 2019 (EST)

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Marth vs Lucina.

There are no differences in the basic properties of Lucina's normals and specials, with the exception of the tipper mechanic. This goes for Chrom vs Roy too (except for up special). Lucina's attacks, in general, are 12% more effective than Marth's sourspots, and 25% less effective than Marth's sweetspots. In general, Marth has a higher total damage output because of this. Lucina's consistency is certainly not without merit. Lucina's up tilt actually emulates Marth's move in terms of timing. The same strats can be used with both fighters, since their framedata and attributes are identical. Also, can we stop with the "More Unique Echo Fighter" thing? --Tuffingtons (talk) 15:58, 18 January 2019 (EST)

It is impossible to make a statement about whose damage is higher without accounting for rates of successful tipping with actual evidence, which you do not have. Please refrain from edit warring. – Emmett 16:17, 18 January 2019 (EST)

Hello memoryman3. You’re being very disruptive on this page. First of all, as experience as a Lucina main, I can tell you with certainty that she and Marth can’t play the same way. While definitely not to the extent Chrom and Ken are, she is still unique for an echo fighter. Secondly, it is fairly notable that she is he only echo fighter who has a different screen KO, and it’s important to go into detail about how he lack of a tipper affects them (such as not being able to secure KOs). Thirdly, Lucina’s up tilt does not emulate Marth’s tipper because marth’s tipper also deals more knockback. Lucina’s ting-based sweetspot deals more damage, but also less knockback. So knock it off memeoryman3. 99.203.10.238 16:50, 18 January 2019 (EST)