Forum:Olimar and pikmin
Can anyone give me a few simple tips with getting good with olimar? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.98.66 (talk • contribs) 01:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Always have 6pikmin before charging in. When more than 2 die, charge out. Olimar's running A move is one of his best moves. Olimar has some of the best throws and grabs. Use them. Olimar's >B has further range than his smash, and, in my opinion, is better. White pikmin tend to do the most damage. Purple pikmin do best knockback. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.116.46 (talk • contribs) 13:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Keep in mind that the Pikmin Throw leaves Pikmin vulnerable for attack. Use it in combination with other moves. Also, the Pikmin Chain can work as a nice edge guarding move, in some cases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pikamander2 (talk • contribs) 17:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Perfect timing to open this, I have some info to post. :) Ok so his directional areal moves make great killing moves with red pikmin, or purple pikmin, purple pikmin with D-air is a powerful meteor smash/spike attack. Pikmin throw (>B/B side) is a great move for building up damage, and if the entire set is on that one enemy, watch him, because, if he is charging up a smash attack, call your pikmin back with Whistle (Bv/B down) so that way your pikmin don't all die. One easier way to get purple pikmin and white pikmin is to stand near an edge with some space between you and the edge, face away from the edge, and pikmin pluck (basic B move) some pikmin. Purple and white pikmin when plucked move a shorter distance compared to the other pikmin, so all purple pikmin and white pikmin should land on ground, and the others fall down (it will be easier to understand with practice). White pikmin when flowered will do slightly more damage (with their grab attack Pummel Z+A) then when they are leaf pikmin. Avoid going in water, and use F-air with red or purple pikmin, as that move is powerful for KO'ing enemies. Now, one important (and juicy) tidbit of knowledge is how to use pikmin for defencive purposes. Red pikmin can be thrown ahead of you to take the hits of missles, thrown bombs (I think), and maybe curry fireballs. Yellow pikmin are conveniet, one yellow pikmin can be hit by a full Charge Shot, and not be phased by it. Learner4
While Olimar and his Pikmin may be able to string together some good comboes, people keep forgetting one major disadvantage: Olimar can't do anything without his Pikmin! All he can do with no Pikmin is tilts, his neutral combo, and his neutral aerial. With only five moves in his arsenal, Olimar will surely get owned by other characters. Also, he's tremendously easy to edge-guard because a Tether Recovery is his only option. Just grab the edge! And, when he has no Pikmin, Olimar can't use his up special to recover at all. Overall, playing as Olimar is too risky. I suggest you get good with Meta Knight, Pit, or someone like that. - GalaxiaD 19:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Even though someone posted asking for advice on how to get better at playing with a specified character, you instead attacked the characters' flaws and suggested your own two characters. You seem to be one of those people who post alot but never actually say anything. Again, I advise you work on your attitude while posting. -FlagLapelOnMyChest —Preceding unsigned comment added by FlagLapelOnMyChest (talk • contribs) 14:41, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Look, GalaxiaD, stop being so over-obsessed with Metaknight and Pit. If someone wants to be good with Olimar and thay need help to do it, suggesting they play another character isn't helpful. Olimar may be risky, but sometimes risks have to be made. Olimar has the most powerful projectiles in the game, Olimar has the longest tether recovery. Olimar has perhaps the best final smash, I know you're going to object that items aren't allowed in tournament play, but they are allowed in non-tournament play, which is also a thing. Not everyone plays SSB games so that they can enter into tournaments. So, in conclusion, yes, Olimar may be risky, and yes, he may not be the most impressive, but if you don't want to give advice, then don't! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.116.9 (talk • contribs) 10:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Believe it or not, you can still DO his up special. It may not tether, but sometimes that little jump he does may just save his life. Some people specifically train using Olimar WITHOUT his Pikmin; I do myself against particularly inexperienced players as a handicap. However, he is rather crippled on stages with water or few tetherable edges. I don't really concern myself with planning each color. If there's a white in line I grab or pikmin toss, and if I want to rack up damage I save the purples for the end, but other than that I don't pay too much mind. The main thing is not to lose track of them. The second you get knocked away from solid ground you should immediately whistle. This should be a habit before you ever pikmin chain. And unless you're midair (juggled or low gravity) there should be no reason to have less than 6 pokemon on the field at any given time. Also beware that you don't accidentally chuck pikmin into stage obstacles of off the edge. Sometimes if you're lucky you can Whistle them back if you hurry. As for attacks, I like his combos to rack up damage, such as uptilt-nair-uair if possible, and fsmash and fair to KO. But I don't use him much more than anyone else, so I don't know if I'm that proficient at him specifically. - Gargomon251 10:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
1. I'm not obsessed with Meta Knight or Pit. They're just naturally good, and they'll probably make top tier. 2. Even though I offered no real advice on Olimar's play style, I still made a suggestion as to use better characters, as I can beat Olimar on Lvl. 9 without using any items in 42 seconds, which is possibly a world record. If you lose to someone in 42 seconds, you're not that good. 3. Can I say anything without getting bashed by random people?! These forums are for the sole purpose of saying whatever you want about Smash, but when I do say something, I seem to attract haters like flies on feces. So the stuff I say is controversial. Oh well. I say what I want, and my opinions will not change so that I please people. As the great Bill Cosby once said, "The key to failure is trying to please everybody." And for me, failure is not an option. - GalaxiaD 21:57, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh yes, lvl 9s, the height of brawl skill. And as i was saying, not everyone plays to win tournaments, you can say anything you want, yes, but if you want to make a case about the overwhelming skill of Pit, and the overrated skill of someone like MetaKnight, do it in the right place. I realise i'm being a bit hypocritical here, but, oh well, i'll say what i want. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.116.9 (talk • contribs) 22:48, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
You do realize that there are people out there who can't even touch a Lvl. 9 CPU right? Also, did I mention that I beat Olimar on Final Destination without the use of any items whatsoever in 42 seconds? 42 FREAKIN' SECONDS!! And you're going to stand there and tell me that that's not impressive? For all we know, you probably can't beat a Lvl. 1 CPU with items! I know a CPU isn't a professional, but you still must give credit where credit is due. And I'll also have you know that Meta Knight is anything but overrated. HE'S INCREDIBLE!!! This is true, especially if you ever saw me control him. My skills with Meta Knight would BLOW YOUR FREAKIN' MIND!!! Sure, you can continue to call me a poser, but whatever. I"LL SAY WHAT I WANT!!! - GalaxiaD 00:35, 6 May 2008 (UTC) "I offered no real advice on Olimar's play style" GalaxiaD
This is what, your third post? And you adress the issue of ignoring the topic of this article for what purpose? Instead, consider attempting to answer the question that was given. Also, lets try to use our little quotes in the right context, because when speaking on a diversial issue, which lets just call it completly promoting your own selfish propoganda agenda, you should use quotes that benefit your arguement.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." Abraham Lincoln
FlagLapelOnMyChest 14:30, 6 May 2008 (UTC)FlagLapelOnMyChest
You're obviously obsessed with Meta-Knight, only look at your nickname, is GalaxiaD! Meta Knight's sword! How can I call a moderator?--Jigglypuff is God 14:23, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh yes, 42 seconds, the speed of a, well a, a, errr, Bowser. Your skills with MetaKnight would impress me to the minimum. And there are very few people out there who can't touch a lvl 9. I have a friend who can't even use up B, and he can beat a lvl 9. My point being, that no-one cares you can beat a level 9 without items. And MetaKngiht is overrated. Wooh! He's fast! Wooh, he has no impressive finishing moves! Anyway, point being, that you are vey unhelpful, and pretty detrimental to the forums. Have you made a single post that did not involve MetaKnight? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.13.100.161 (talk • contribs) 4:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
FYI, dumbass, I've made many posts that didn't even involve Meta Knight. Look at the "Slower Game Engine" forum for an example. Also, your friend can't use an Up B? That's just laughable. You're extremely naive or idiotic to assume for 1 second that Meta Knight has no good finishers. Forward and Down Smashes anyone? Oh, let's not forget the Shuttle Loop! There's 3 for you right there! Of course, it's completely understandable if you can't count worth shit, given how dumb you are. And if beating a Lvl. 9 CPU doesn't impress you, then you're extremely unappreciative. This is what the world's come to? I bet God himself could appear right before your eyes, and you wouldn't tremble a bit! That's just sad. I really hope you don't end up in Hell for being the ass that you are. Despite my hatred for you, I could never wish that fate upon anybody. Best of luck, dude. You're definitely going to need it. And Jigglypuff is God, SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! I've had enough of you! All you've been doing is shooting me down. You NEVER have anything productive to say. If you want to talk about obsessions, your name says it all. You think Jigglypuff is God? Fine, go worship a false idol if that's what you're into. Sure, it's gay, but you have been a homo all along, so your secret obsession with Jigglypuff doesn't surprise me a bit. I need no longer converse with dumb fucks like you. I'm going to take my forum talks and edits elsewhere throughout SmashWiki. There are a lot of smarter, nicer people than the likes of you! Goodbye and FUCK OFF!!! - GalaxiaD 20:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, as likely as it is that I will go to hell, i have indeed led an evil life, and yes, the fact that i don't like Meta Knight means i worship a false idol. But i have to be honest, I love the fact that you can make arguments without swearing! No no, no no, that's everyone else. And errr, if you consider Lvl 9s to be on par with God...well, then, i don't know what to tell you there. And i like the fact you insulted my intelligence based on the fact that i said Meta Knight has no good finishers. That, my friend, is the characteristic of a bad bad arguer. Oh, i do apologise. I don't worship the false idol, i would delete it, but, the back button on my keyboard doesn't work. But as a person, I like you, you seem very balanced and open minded. Oh, and here's the kicker, i think Meta Knights pretty impressive. So, to sum up, don't assume, don't swear, and read your argument, and look at how pathetic your life must be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.13.100.161 (talk • contribs) 01:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Was I FUCKING TALKING TO YOU?! NO! I was talking to that ass they call Jigglypuff is God. He's the one that worships the false idol. YOU'RE the one who always has a smartass comment. To be honest, your attitude sucks balls. And I would NEVER consider a Lvl. 9 CPU to be par with God. NOTHING in this whole universe beats God. He comes first, and I have no idea what gave you the impression that I would even CONSIDER a CPU to be par with God. Just because I used a spiritual comparison? I never explicitly stated that a CPU and God were the same, and the fact that you thought I said that reinforces my point of how much of a retard you are. I simply stated that if God appeared before you, you wouldn't tremble, when you very well should. The message I was sending was that you are unappreciative of true talent in the world around you, and no one likes a jerk who doesn't respect anybody. I hope you learn from this lesson and understand real fast that one of these days, you're going to say something smart like you usually do and someone's going to make your life a living nightmare for it. Despite the fact that I swear and rub off on you as a jerk, you must understand that I'm trying to help you. That's all I ever wanted to do on SmashWiki: help people. There's so much wrong with the world today, and you're a prime example. And the fact that I contribute to this site, have an urge to help people, and have accepted Jesus into my life gives you the right to say that my life is pathetic? I don't think so. My life couldn't be more awesome. How's yours, dude? How's yours? - GalaxiaD 22:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
