Talk:Tier list/Archive 7

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::::::::::::''"And I feel I have to re-iterate: this page is about '''''tier lists'''''. You seem to be assuming it has a much broader scope than it does."''

::::::::::::The fact that many community members think Diddy Kong is a top tier character is related to the '''''tier list.''''' Stating who people think the top tier characters are is a fact about the '''''tier list'''''. The SBR tier list literally ''discusses the characters people think are the best in the game.'' Saying "Many people think..........is a top tier character" is ''discussing the characters people think are the best in the game.'' Why should we arbitrarily exclude anything that isn't an "official" SBR tier list? [[User:Ac2k|'''Awesome''']] [[User talk:Ac2k|'''Cardinal''']] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|'''2000''']] 18:02, 23 January 2015 (EST)

:::::::::::::You did not address either of my points whatsoever. I'm not disputing Diddy's competitive success. What I am disputing, however, is the idea that we should report that outside the context of an actual tier list. Again, where do you draw the line? Do we list the top three characters? Top five? Top ten? Who do you cite as a source? How are you determining your consensus on the subject? You even mention Mii Brawler, and yet many tournaments have blanket bans on Mii Fighters altogether. There's massive amounts of ambiguity and reporting such an incomplete, hazy picture as if it were definite is a hugely bad idea.

:::::::::::::Also, "so-and-so is a top tier character" is not relevant to a tier '''''list'''''. A tier list includes all characters in the roster ranked relative to their competitive viability, successes, and potential. Attempting to define a character as "top tier" outside of a complete tier list is meaningless. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|'''Miles''']] ([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|talk]]) 18:15, 23 January 2015 (EST)

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 ::::::::::::''"And I feel I have to re-iterate: this page is about '''''tier lists'''''. You seem to be assuming it has a much broader scope than it does."''
 ::::::::::::The fact that many community members think Diddy Kong is a top tier character is related to the '''''tier list.''''' Stating who people think the top tier characters are is a fact about the '''''tier list'''''. The SBR tier list literally ''discusses the characters people think are the best in the game.'' Saying "Many people think..........is a top tier character" is ''discussing the characters people think are the best in the game.'' Why should we arbitrarily exclude anything that isn't an "official" SBR tier list? [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 18:02, 23 January 2015 (EST)
+:::::::::::::You did not address either of my points whatsoever. I'm not disputing Diddy's competitive success. What I am disputing, however, is the idea that we should report that outside the context of an actual tier list. Again, where do you draw the line? Do we list the top three characters? Top five? Top ten? Who do you cite as a source? How are you determining your consensus on the subject? You even mention Mii Brawler, and yet many tournaments have blanket bans on Mii Fighters altogether. There's massive amounts of ambiguity and reporting such an incomplete, hazy picture as if it were definite is a hugely bad idea.
+:::::::::::::Also, "so-and-so is a top tier character" is not relevant to a tier '''''list'''''. A tier list includes all characters in the roster ranked relative to their competitive viability, successes, and potential. Attempting to define a character as "top tier" outside of a complete tier list is meaningless. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:15, 23 January 2015 (EST)