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Mike West reprises his role from ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'' with new voice clips, sounding more akin to his appearances in ''Star Fox Zero'' and ''Starlink: Battle for Atlas''.  In the Japanese version, Fox is now voiced by {{s|Wikipedia|Takashi Ōhara}}, reprising his role from ''Star Fox 64 3D'' and ''Star Fox Zero'', replacing {{s|wikipedia|Kenji Nojima}} from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' and ''Smash 4''.
Mike West reprises his role from ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'' with new voice clips, sounding more akin to his appearances in ''Star Fox Zero'' and ''Starlink: Battle for Atlas''.  In the Japanese version, Fox is now voiced by {{s|Wikipedia|Takashi Ōhara}}, reprising his role from ''Star Fox 64 3D'' and ''Star Fox Zero'', replacing {{s|wikipedia|Kenji Nojima}} from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' and ''Smash 4''.


Fox is ranked 5th out of 82 on the [[tier list]] placing him in S tier. This is a slight improvement from his placement in ''Smash 4'' where he was ranked 7th/8th out of 54 and tied with {{SSB4|Sonic}}. Fox retains many of his strengths from the previous game including his phenomenal movement options, stellar frame data, and high [[damage]] output resulting in him having one of the best [[Neutral game|neutrals]] and advantage states in the entire game. Fox also has many ways to kill reliably thanks to his powerful and quick [[Smash attack|smash attacks]] and his notoriously safe [[Back aerial|back aerial]] at [[Ledge|ledge]] granting Fox the ability to overwhelm his opponents easily. Fox's [[combo]] and [[juggling]] game also greatly benefits from universal changes made in the transition from ''Smash 4'' to ''Ultimate'', such as the game's increased speed, reduction to [[landing lag]], and [[airdodging]] nerfs.
Fox is ranked 5th out of 82 on the [[tier list]] placing him in S tier. This is a slight improvement from his placement in ''Smash 4'' where he was ranked 7th/8th out of 54 and tied with {{SSB4|Sonic}}. Fox's biggest strengths revolve around his phenomenal movement options, stellar frame data, and high [[damage]] output, which gives him the ability to overwhelm opponents easily and allows him to have one of the best [[Neutral game|neutrals]] and advantage states in the entire game. Fox also has several ways to kill reliably thanks to his powerful and quick [[Smash attack|smash attacks]] and his notoriously safe [[Back aerial|back aerial]] at [[Ledge|ledge]]. Finally, Fox's [[combo]] and [[juggling]] game also greatly benefits from universal changes made in the transition from ''Smash 4'' to ''Ultimate'', such as the game's increased speed, reduction to [[landing lag]], and [[airdodging]] nerfs.


However, Fox retains his flaws from ''Smash 4'' such as his linear [[Recovery|recovery]], fast [[Falling speed|falling speed]], and considerably light [[Weight|weight]]. Though Fox has several recovery options that cover a great distance, their linearity makes it easy for Fox to be [[Edgeguarding|edgeguarded]] continuously if the player isn't careful. Fox is also one of the lightest characters in the game, giving him poor endurance compared to the rest of the cast. In addition, Fox has the fastest falling speed and [[gravity]] out of anyone in the roster, making him susceptible to combos and — when combined with his very low weight, potentially early KOs. Finally, Fox received notable nerfs to his moveset that worsened his ability to set up [[Kill confirm|kill confirms]], such as the changes made to his [[Tilt attack|tilts]] and [[Throw|throws]].
However, Fox also has some noticeable weaknesses. His most notable weakness is his survivability, as Fox is one of the lightest characters in the game and has the fastest [[falling speed]] and [[gravity]] out of anyone in the roster. This means his endurance is poor compared to the rest of the cast, as he is rather susceptible to combos and potential early KOs. Finally, although Fox has several recovery options that cover a great distance, their linearity makes it easy for Fox to be [[Edgeguarding|edgeguarded]] continuously if the player isn't careful.


Despite these nerfs, Fox is considered to be just as good if not better than his ''Smash 4'' iteration, and remains a top tier character with wide representation in [[Competitive play|competitive play]], with players such as {{Sm|Light|p=Connecticut}} and {{Sm|Paseriman}} obtaining incredible results with the character.
Overall, Fox's strengths outweigh his weaknesses, and he has garnered several strong results from players such as {{Sm|Light|p=Connecticut}} and {{Sm|Paseriman}}.


==Attributes==
==Attributes==
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Lastly, the changes to [[perfect shield]]ing both benefit and hinder Fox. He arguably benefits from the revamped perfect shield the most, because of possessing very quick moves like up tilt or up smash, while perfect shield is ineffective against quick multi-hitting attacks like his down aerial. In contrast, it also makes it easier to retaliate against otherwise hard to punish moves, like his neutral aerial, forcing Fox to use his staple landing moves less predictably.
Lastly, the changes to [[perfect shield]]ing both benefit and hinder Fox. He arguably benefits from the revamped perfect shield the most, because of possessing very quick moves like up tilt or up smash, while perfect shield is ineffective against quick multi-hitting attacks like his down aerial. In contrast, it also makes it easier to retaliate against otherwise hard to punish moves, like his neutral aerial, forcing Fox to use his staple landing moves less predictably.


Overall, Fox is a more polarized glass cannon; most of his tremendous strengths and advantages remain, and some of his moves have increased utility, but his key weaknesses are also significantly more exploitable, and he has an even harder time getting out of disadvantage; all these changes result in Fox's moveset having many more and versatile options, but also mean he now has to play more carefully in order to gain or retain the advantage, and the revamped mechanics compound both points. Like in ''SSB4'', Fox continues to have a high amount of representation in the competitive scene, having achieved noteworthy results thanks to the efforts of notable players including {{Sm|Light|p=Connecticut}}, {{Sm|Paseriman}}, {{Sm|Lui$}}, {{Sm|ZD}}, and {{Sm|Eon}}. Because of this, his competitive reception has remained positive, as many players consider him as a top tier character.
Overall, Fox is a more polarized glass cannon; most of his tremendous strengths and advantages remain, and some of his moves have increased utility, but his key weaknesses are also significantly more exploitable, and he has an even harder time getting out of disadvantage; all these changes result in Fox's moveset having many more and versatile options, but also mean he now has to play more carefully in order to gain or retain the advantage, and the revamped mechanics compound both points.  


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*{{Sm|Light|USA|p=Connecticut}} - The best Fox player of all-time who has been a top 10 player for most of the game's lifespan, and is currently the only Fox player who has won a major.
*{{Sm|Light|USA|p=Connecticut}} - The best Fox player of all-time who has been a top 10 player for most of the game's lifespan, and is currently the only Fox player who has won a major.
*{{Sm|Lui$|USA}} - One of the best Fox players in the world in the early metagame, ranking 39th on the [[Fall 2019 PGRU]] and noticeably placing 7th at the supermajor {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2019}} while primarily using Fox. He dropped Fox for {{SSBU|Palutena}} in the online metagame and has stuck with her since.
*{{Sm|Lui$|USA}} - One of the best Fox players in the world in the early metagame, ranking 39th on the [[Fall 2019 PGRU]] and noticeably placing 7th at the supermajor {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2019}} while primarily using Fox. He dropped Fox for {{SSBU|Palutena}} in the online metagame and has stuck with her since.
*{{Sm|Paseriman|Japan}} - The second best Fox player of all-time who was in contention for the best in 2020, ranking above Light at 11th on the [[OrionRank Pre-Quarantine]] thanks to a string of strong performances, most notably 4th at the supermajor {{Trn|EVO Japan 2020}} and 9th at the supermajor {{Trn|Frostbite 2020}}. However since then his results have been inconsistent and he has picked up {{SSBU|Diddy Kong}} as a co-main.
*{{Sm|Paseriman|Japan}} - The second best Fox player of all-time who was in contention for the best in 2020, ranking above Light at 11th on the [[OrionRank Pre-Quarantine]] thanks to a string of strong performances, most notably 4th at the supermajor {{Trn|EVO Japan 2020}} and 9th at the supermajor {{Trn|Frostbite 2020}}. However he has never been able to reach those heights after 2020, and he has also picked up {{SSBU|Diddy Kong}} as a co-main.
*{{Sm|RyuKai|France}} - One of the best Fox players in Europe, although he primarily played {{SSBU|Wolf}} from late-2021 to early-2023. His breakout event was placing 2nd at {{Trn|Smash Contest: DoKomi 2020}} while double-eliminating Europe's then-#3 {{Sm|Space}}, and he has since seen several notable results at European events such as 17th at the superregional {{Trn|ICARUS 2023}} and 25th at the major {{Trn|King Of Fields 95 3}}.
*{{Sm|RyuKai|France}} - One of the best Fox players in Europe, although he primarily played {{SSBU|Wolf}} from late-2021 to early-2023. His breakout event was placing 2nd at {{Trn|Smash Contest: DoKomi 2020}} while double-eliminating Europe's then-#3 {{Sm|Space}}, and he has since seen several notable results at European events such as 17th at the superregional {{Trn|ICARUS 2023}} and 25th at the major {{Trn|King Of Fields 95 3}}.
*{{Sm|ZD|USA}} - One of the best Fox players in the world in the first few months of the competitive scene, placing 5th at the major {{Trn|Glitch 6}} and 7th at the major {{Trn|Let's Make Moves}}, taking sets from top 10 players such as {{Sm|Tweek}} at {{Trn|Ultimate Nimbus}} and {{Sm|Zackray}} at {{Trn|Frostbite 2019}}, and ranking in the Area 51 on the [[Spring 2019 PGRU]]. However, his results have since declined and he began co-maining Fox with {{SSBU|Wolf}}.
*{{Sm|ZD|USA}} - One of the best Fox players in the world in the first few months of the competitive scene, placing 5th at the major {{Trn|Glitch 6}} and 7th at the major {{Trn|Let's Make Moves}}, taking sets from top 10 players such as {{Sm|Tweek}} at {{Trn|Ultimate Nimbus}} and {{Sm|Zackray}} at {{Trn|Frostbite 2019}}, and ranking in the Area 51 on the [[Spring 2019 PGRU]]. However, his results have since declined and he began co-maining Fox with {{SSBU|Wolf}}.


===Tier placement and history===
===Tier placement and history===
In stark contrast to pre-release ''Ultimate'', where it was speculated that Fox would be an unviable character, Fox initially saw a very positive reception due to all of the indirect benefits he received from the game's engine as well as phenomenal results from professionals such as {{Sm|Light|p=Connecticut}}, {{Sm|Lui$}}, {{Sm|Paseriman}}, and {{Sm|ZD}}. Light especially contributed to this reception, being a top 10 player in the first year of ''Ultimate'' and consistently making top 8 at national tournaments. In the early metagame, most players believed that Fox was a top-tier character, with some arguing that he was a top 5 character.
In stark contrast to pre-release ''Ultimate'', where it was speculated that Fox would be an unviable character, Fox initially saw a very positive reception due to all of the indirect benefits he received from the game's engine as well as phenomenal results from professionals such as {{Sm|Light|p=Connecticut}} and {{Sm|ZD}}. Light especially contributed to this reception, being a top 10 player in the first year of ''Ultimate'' and consistently making top 8 at major events. This led to very high opinions on the character, and many players labeled him as a top 5 character.


As the metagame progressed, however, Fox's results steadily dropped as his weaknesses, such as his expoitable recovery and his fragile weight became more apparent, and his playerbase either obtained less consistent results such as Light, completely dropped Fox such as {{Sm|Larry Lurr}}, or picked up other characters to cover Fox's bad matchups such as Lui$. Fox's placement became a huge topic of debate, with some players such as {{Sm|Dark Wizzy}}, {{Sm|MkLeo}}, and {{Sm|Tweek}} continuing to rank him as a top 10/15 character while others, including Light and Larry Lurr themselves, claiming that he's "overrated" and believing that he is high-tier at best due to his major weaknesses. On the other hand, Fox's perception in Japan is more optimistic as most of their top players rank him among the top 10 in the game, with {{Sm|Zackray}} ranking him 7th and {{Sm|Paseriman}} ranking him 4th.
However, the second half of 2019 saw a noticeable decline in Fox's results as his weaknesses, such as his exploitable recovery and his fragile weight, became more apparent. Players either began performing worse with Fox or began picking up other characters to complement Fox; most notably, the second half of 2019 saw some of Light's worst results of his career, while ZD's results took a noticeable hit and he also began playing {{SSBU|Wolf}}. Despite these negatives, there were still some positives for the character during this time, such as several strong results coming from Light and the rise of {{Sm|Lui$}} in mid-2019 and {{Sm|Paseriman}} in 2020, with the latter most notably putting Light's title of "best Fox player" in contention. Nevertheless, Fox's worse representation led many players to rank Fox lower on their tier lists, with Light himself believing the character was only high tier at best.


In the online metagame, characters that require precision and strict reaction times are considered less viable. During the pandemic, Fox's results dwindled significantly as all of Fox's best players either temporarily dropped him, such as Lui$, or have not attended online tournaments at all, such as Light. Despite receiving buffs during this period, Fox continued to see low results in the metagame, with some players such as Light and Kola believing the character isn't even top 20 and potentially the worst of the [[Spacies]].
Since 2019, Fox's results have remained in a weird spot. Fox's best results in the post-online metagame have since surpassed what he had in the early metagame thanks to the efforts of Light, who abused Fox's strong neutral game and advantage state to place top 8 at most majors he attended, including winning a few of them. On the other hand, Fox's other players have yet to achieve the consistency and results as Light: Paseriman's major results have fluctuated between really strong (such as 3rd at {{Trn|Kagaribi 6}}) to really underwhelming (such as 257th at {{Trn|Umebura SP 9}}); newer Fox players such as {{Sm|Kaninabe}} are also less consistent; and Lui$ eventually dropped the character in favor of {{SSBU|Palutena}}. As such, although Fox was ranked 5th on the current tier list as a top-tier character, his representation remains somewhat underwhelming for a top 5 character, having been ranked mid-10s to high-20s in the post-online metagame. Nevertheless, opinions on Fox have since improved from his slump in mid-2019.


However, despite lower representation and perception from the early metagame, Fox continues to see much stronger results after the pandemic period thanks to the efforts of Light and Paseriman. Light has especially contribued to Fox's renewed reputation, winning both his and Fox's first major at {{Trn|Super Smash Con: Fall Fest}} and becoming the best player in the United States subsequently. As such, most players generally agree that Fox is still at least a top tier character with many saying he's one of the best characters in the game which is reflected by him being ranked 5th on the first Smash Ultimate Tier List.
In the online metagame, characters that require precision and strict reaction times are considered less viable. As a result, most Fox players opted to play other characters or decided not to play online, leading Fox to have one of the worst representations in the online metagame out of all top tiers.


=={{SSBU|Classic Mode}}: Spaceborne Smash==
=={{SSBU|Classic Mode}}: Spaceborne Smash==