Talk:Arsène

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:The most similar case to this I could find in Smash is the [[Devil Car]], which in the official English release of ''Mother'', released after Smash 4, became the Psycho Car. Since the Psycho Car doesn't appear in Ultimate, as far as Smash is concerned, the name used in the series is still Devil Car. Keeping the diacritic probably makes sense for sections that are about the ''Persona'' games, such as the various "Origin" sections. Likewise should Joker appear in a future Smash game and use the updated Royal spellings, the original spelling should still be kept in pages and sections that are specifically about Ultimate. --[[User:Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] ([[User talk:Rdrfc|talk]]) 11:53, March 17, 2021 (EDT)

::I 100% agree with Rdrfc's take on the matter. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|'''Banjo-''']][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|'''Kazooie''']] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 14:12, March 17, 2021 (EDT)

I personally don't see much issue with the diacritic, as P5R was technically fixing a spelling error: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ars%C3%A8ne_Lupin his namesake is named "Arsène Lupin"]. I'd argue that Smash's misspelling is a coincidence at best; for all we know, the developers could have just saw P5's content and used that. Updating the name alongside P5R, which likely signals that the spelling could be updated at any point, even in a later Smash title, makes sense. I don't see why there should be some weird policy where P5 content uses the correct spelling and Smash uses the wrong spelling, that's just adding natural inconsistency and will only contribute to additional confusion. It's not like these iterations of Arsène are separate entities, he's just has his name spelled wrong. I also don't see why it should be moved back only to get discussed again, this should be more of a "posthumous" discussion for a final verdict. For those who oppose use of accents across the wiki, all I have to say is that [[Pokémon (universe)]] would like a word, as would every single instance where Pokémon is referred to, even in Smash's promotional material. The claim that Smash doesn't use diacritics is blatantly false. If anything, updating the name makes sense for future-proofing; in the case Joker returns in a later game and likely comes with an updated spelling, this discussion will just open up again. Finally, I really don't see why what can be seen as simplification of his name so to not have to use a unicode combination on a keyboard is a valid reason to call "Arsene" a case of "community consensus"...'''keep the page as it is.''' --[[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|'''Plague''']][[User talk:Plague von Karma|''' von Karma''']][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 23:45, March 17, 2021 (EDT)

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 :The most similar case to this I could find in Smash is the [[Devil Car]], which in the official English release of ''Mother'', released after Smash 4, became the Psycho Car. Since the Psycho Car doesn't appear in Ultimate, as far as Smash is concerned, the name used in the series is still Devil Car. Keeping the diacritic probably makes sense for sections that are about the ''Persona'' games, such as the various "Origin" sections. Likewise should Joker appear in a future Smash game and use the updated Royal spellings, the original spelling should still be kept in pages and sections that are specifically about Ultimate. --[[User:Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] ([[User talk:Rdrfc|talk]]) 11:53, March 17, 2021 (EDT)
 ::I 100% agree with Rdrfc's take on the matter. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/SamtheBKBoss|<span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 14:12, March 17, 2021 (EDT)
+I personally don't see much issue with the diacritic, as P5R was technically fixing a spelling error: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ars%C3%A8ne_Lupin his namesake is named "Arsène Lupin"]. I'd argue that Smash's misspelling is a coincidence at best; for all we know, the developers could have just saw P5's content and used that. Updating the name alongside P5R, which likely signals that the spelling could be updated at any point, even in a later Smash title, makes sense. I don't see why there should be some weird policy where P5 content uses the correct spelling and Smash uses the wrong spelling, that's just adding natural inconsistency and will only contribute to additional confusion. It's not like these iterations of Arsène are separate entities, he's just has his name spelled wrong. I also don't see why it should be moved back only to get discussed again, this should be more of a "posthumous" discussion for a final verdict. For those who oppose use of accents across the wiki, all I have to say is that [[Pokémon (universe)]] would like a word, as would every single instance where Pokémon is referred to, even in Smash's promotional material. The claim that Smash doesn't use diacritics is blatantly false. If anything, updating the name makes sense for future-proofing; in the case Joker returns in a later game and likely comes with an updated spelling, this discussion will just open up again. Finally, I really don't see why what can be seen as simplification of his name so to not have to use a unicode combination on a keyboard is a valid reason to call "Arsene" a case of "community consensus"...'''keep the page as it is.''' --[[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 23:45, March 17, 2021 (EDT)

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