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Sorry that I'm late to this, had a bit of a rough week. I do agree that King Kila has used Cloud a majority of the time, but he has used King K. Rool as a secondary for a very long time. JoJoDaHoBo, a Toon Link player from his area, can verify this. While his result at Emerald City 8 is only ok, Locus is listed on the [[Ryu_(SSBU)#Notable_players|Ryu]] page while only having this same result at the same tournament. Kila has this and more, giving enough precedent for him to be listed in my opinion, especially with his increase in activity using the king since the Kongo Saga vote. On the note of Von, while he has always been a Lucina main, he has also used K. Rool as a secondary for a long time as well. I believe while being put on the voting isn't impressive, for Kila to get as many votes as he did is a testament to his place in the K. Rool playerbase at minimum, as well as his notability. --[[User:Plague von Karma|Plague von Karma]] ([[User talk:Plague von Karma|talk]]) 12:12, December 4, 2019 (EST)
Sorry that I'm late to this, had a bit of a rough week. I do agree that King Kila has used Cloud a majority of the time, but he has used King K. Rool as a secondary for a very long time. JoJoDaHoBo, a Toon Link player from his area, can verify this. While his result at Emerald City 8 is only ok, Locus is listed on the [[Ryu_(SSBU)#Notable_players|Ryu]] page while only having this same result at the same tournament. Kila has this and more, giving enough precedent for him to be listed in my opinion, especially with his increase in activity using the king since the Kongo Saga vote. On the note of Von, while he has always been a Lucina main, he has also used K. Rool as a secondary for a long time as well. I believe while being put on the voting isn't impressive, for Kila to get as many votes as he did is a testament to his place in the K. Rool playerbase at minimum, as well as his notability. --[[User:Plague von Karma|Plague von Karma]] ([[User talk:Plague von Karma|talk]]) 12:12, December 4, 2019 (EST)
:If Locus barely has any notability with Ryu, then it shouldn't been on there either. I still don't believe being voted onto a compendium is good enough for notability either. Take, for example, the Glitch 8 compendium. I'm not saying this with any ill-will, but how notable are Braixen and Polo? Yes, they are well-known in their community there, but the notability section covers how well-known someone is from all around the world. Not only that, but King Kila currently only has one good PGR tournament and a few good locals. In the future, how notable would placing 9th at Emerald City 8 be? How good would placing in the top 8 at a few Orbitars be? If that's his only tournament where he has done well in the next few years, I don't believe it should be noted on the section.
:Honestly, I believe we should wait until after Kongo Saga. If he places top 96, I believe it's fine. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 20:46, December 5, 2019 (EST)

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King Kila notability

As requested, I have opened a discussion for King Kila's notability status.

Taking a look at his results so far, it seems to me his best results are at the bi-weekly Orbitar; to me, I don't believe it's as notable as other regionals on here since it's basically a local that happens every two weeks. Also, judging by how he also plays a lot of Cloud, it's safe to assume most of those placements are because of Cloud rather than K. Rool. This also leads into my next point: his results on a PGR-level isn't as impressive either, as his best result is 9th at Emerald City 8, and even then he basically only used Cloud. His other results, such as 65th at PP5 and 385th at EVO are very mediocre, and again he could have been using Cloud for most of it. Finally, being voted onto the compendium isn't impressive: for example, Von was voted for K. Rool even though he has always been a Lucina main.

I am open for any other opinions that would make me reconsider my approach. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 11:34, December 1, 2019 (EST)

Sorry that I'm late to this, had a bit of a rough week. I do agree that King Kila has used Cloud a majority of the time, but he has used King K. Rool as a secondary for a very long time. JoJoDaHoBo, a Toon Link player from his area, can verify this. While his result at Emerald City 8 is only ok, Locus is listed on the Ryu page while only having this same result at the same tournament. Kila has this and more, giving enough precedent for him to be listed in my opinion, especially with his increase in activity using the king since the Kongo Saga vote. On the note of Von, while he has always been a Lucina main, he has also used K. Rool as a secondary for a long time as well. I believe while being put on the voting isn't impressive, for Kila to get as many votes as he did is a testament to his place in the K. Rool playerbase at minimum, as well as his notability. --Plague von Karma (talk) 12:12, December 4, 2019 (EST)

If Locus barely has any notability with Ryu, then it shouldn't been on there either. I still don't believe being voted onto a compendium is good enough for notability either. Take, for example, the Glitch 8 compendium. I'm not saying this with any ill-will, but how notable are Braixen and Polo? Yes, they are well-known in their community there, but the notability section covers how well-known someone is from all around the world. Not only that, but King Kila currently only has one good PGR tournament and a few good locals. In the future, how notable would placing 9th at Emerald City 8 be? How good would placing in the top 8 at a few Orbitars be? If that's his only tournament where he has done well in the next few years, I don't believe it should be noted on the section.
Honestly, I believe we should wait until after Kongo Saga. If he places top 96, I believe it's fine. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 20:46, December 5, 2019 (EST)