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In ''[[Brawl]]'', the technique loses some of its effectiveness, due to its variable knockback, but it's still highly effective at stopping opponents with less than average recovery from getting back on the stage. [[Float]]ers, characters with two recovery techniques (such as {{SSBB|Wario}}) and characters with a [[tether recovery]] are generally able to survive it at low damage percentages. | In ''[[Brawl]]'', the technique loses some of its effectiveness, due to its variable knockback, but it's still highly effective at stopping opponents with less than average recovery from getting back on the stage. [[Float]]ers, characters with two recovery techniques (such as {{SSBB|Wario}}) and characters with a [[tether recovery]] are generally able to survive it at low damage percentages. | ||
In ''[[Smash 4]]'', Fox's shine launches opponents at a higher angle when used on airborne opponents, no longer being a semi-spike. When combined with the generally improved recoveries, and the increased startup time on shine( | In ''[[Smash 4]]'', Fox's shine launches opponents at a higher angle when used on airborne opponents, no longer being a semi-spike. When combined with the generally improved recoveries, and the increased startup time on the shine (hitting on frames 6-7, rather than immediately on frame 1 like in ''Melee''), shine spiking loses most of its utility as a tool for edgeguarding. ''Smash 4''{{'}}s changes to [[tech]]ing do provide a small boost to the shine's edgeguarding utility, however, as Fox can now pull off untechable [[stage spike]]s with his shine if the opponent recovers too close to the stage. | ||
==Shine edgehog== | ==Shine edgehog== | ||
The Shine edgehog is a very useful technique for Fox offstage. It allows him to use his [[Reflector]] and grab the [[ledge]] after the move is done. First, the player must dash to the ledge. Before their momentum takes them off the edge of the stage, they must perform a Shine and quickly turn around in the air. (Note: This can be done without turning around, but turning around in the air gives more distance with the slide, plus Fox is then able to [[sweetspot]] the edge.) Doing it without turning around is practically useless, because it only goes so far, and players sweetspot the ledge before performing an unturned Shine. | The Shine edgehog is a very useful technique for Fox offstage. It allows him to use his [[Reflector]] and grab the [[ledge]] after the move is done. First, the player must dash to the ledge. Before their momentum takes them off the edge of the stage, they must perform a Shine and quickly turn around in the air. (Note: This can be done without turning around, but turning around in the air gives more distance with the slide, plus Fox is then able to [[sweetspot]] the edge.) Doing it without turning around is practically useless, because it only goes so far, and players sweetspot the ledge before performing an unturned Shine. | ||
