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The basic idea is to avoid unnecessary clutter and go with the concise official answer, regardless of any previous appearances. As Miles put it, "If someone (somehow) doesn't know what game Cloud first appeared in, they should be able to go to the infobox and see 'Final Fantasy VII (1997)' without any extraneous information". Same deal with all the other characters. Maybe changing the infobox parameter to "official debut" would help clarify this as well. ~ [[User:StrawberryChan|<span style="color: #e68;">'''StrawberryChan'''</span>]] ([[User talk:StrawberryChan|talk]]) 20:15, January 14, 2021 (EST) | The basic idea is to avoid unnecessary clutter and go with the concise official answer, regardless of any previous appearances. As Miles put it, "If someone (somehow) doesn't know what game Cloud first appeared in, they should be able to go to the infobox and see 'Final Fantasy VII (1997)' without any extraneous information". Same deal with all the other characters. Maybe changing the infobox parameter to "official debut" would help clarify this as well. ~ [[User:StrawberryChan|<span style="color: #e68;">'''StrawberryChan'''</span>]] ([[User talk:StrawberryChan|talk]]) 20:15, January 14, 2021 (EST) | ||
:The tough part is that there's kind of inherently going to be a case-by-case nature to these without a neat one-size-fits-all answer. Banjo's appearance in Diddy Kong Racing versus Lucario's minor cameo in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon are pretty different in significance, and the Minecraft stuff is itself a separate conversation as you said. I don't know that trying to make any overly-broad blanket rules will be a good approach. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:23, January 14, 2021 (EST) | :The tough part is that there's kind of inherently going to be a case-by-case nature to these without a neat one-size-fits-all answer. Banjo's appearance in Diddy Kong Racing versus Lucario's minor cameo in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon are pretty different in significance, and the Minecraft stuff is itself a separate conversation as you said. I don't know that trying to make any overly-broad blanket rules will be a good approach. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:23, January 14, 2021 (EST) | ||
:The All Star criterion is finicky because many characters wouldn't change their position in the given order regardless of what their debut is counted as, many of these happened in the span of a few months if not just weeks. In fact the only ones that would shift position with cameos and "unofficial debuts" counted are just Lucario, Banjo (but you could argue it is counting the debut of the Banjo & Kazooie duo) and Steve. Also obligatory [[SW:OFFICIAL]] mention. Side note I don't think it's necessary to mention Ganon's debut in Ganondorf's infobox when Ganon has [[Ganon|his own]]. | |||
