Editing Talk:Super Jump Punch

I noticed that Mario and Dr. Mario Super Jump Puch is really uselful vs groups of enemy with reduced knockback resistance (Kirby and Yoshi team from SSBM Adventure Mode, for example). Should we add it ? [[User:Paratroopafan|Paratroopafan]] ([[User talk:Paratroopafan|talk]]) 23:49, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
:Say it can be very useful against...--[[User:Megatron1|Megatron1]] ([[User talk:Megatron1|talk]]) 23:53, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

== Split ==

Same move name, same concept, different properties, '''oppose''' <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 19:51, 28 April 2016 (EDT)

'''Oppose''' as well, they're not really that distinct from each other, and if the bros.' Fireballs are both on one page, I see no reason to split this one. [[User:Xamad|Xamad]] ([[User talk:Xamad|talk]]) 20:00, 28 April 2016 (EDT)
:'''<s>Obligatory</s> Agreeing opposition''' per Serpent. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 20:02, 28 April 2016 (EDT)

The Blasters got split, though: how are these different? (Mario's and Dr Mario's share customs and are much more similar in Melee, though.) -[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 20:09, 28 April 2016 (EDT)
:Blasters between Fox/Falco are not the same concept (one's rapid fire with 0 KB, the other is a normal slow laser) <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:11, 28 April 2016 (EDT)

Order of magnitude of similarity is quite high here. Keep them together. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:21, 28 April 2016 (EDT)
:Agree: '''oppose''' per everyone else. [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']][[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 21:54, 28 April 2016 (EDT)

== Split 2 ==

I'll reiterate what SK said three years ago: "same move name, same concept, different mechanics." It's the same with the Blaster pages, which are currently being proposed to be merged together.  [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: pink;">'''the Springing Rurouni'''</span>]] 14:30, April 12, 2019 (EDT)
:Although I'd rather Super Jump Punch to stay merged, I think we should wait until ''after'' a decision is reached for the Star Fox Blasters & Reflectors as they have the same concept for merging & splitting as this page, so whatever it ends up being for the others, can be applied for this page as well. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 15:58, April 23, 2019 (EDT)
::If I'm being honest, I think Luigi's version of the move should be split. It's so radically different to Mario and Dr. Mario's versions that it's more-or-less its own move. Mario's and Dr. Mario's are similar enough to stay on the same page. [[User:DryKirby64|DryKirby64]] ([[User talk:DryKirby64|talk]]) 19:10, April 30, 2019 (EDT)
:::Dr. Mario’s is arguable. Luigi’s should definitely be split, as it works in a completely different fashion. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 12:06, May 2, 2019 (EDT)
::::To be honest, they are named the same, so isn't separating them just making unnecessary work? I know the wiki is not "official", but I feel like we are just making more unnecessary work for ourselves. Does really matter if its separated? Is it not easier to find said move when going to the page of said move? [[Special:Contributions/66.194.104.5|66.194.104.5]] 17:34, May 2, 2019 (EDT)

'''Support splitting''' on all three moves per the tag. Luigi's especially should not have been merged to begin with. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">HUAH!</span>]]</b> 01:06, May 9, 2019 (EDT)

Considering we keep repeating the same information to the point that neither side is currently able to convince other, I suggest that those of us who have already stated our opinions (including myself) should wait until ''more'' people join the discussion. Perhaps then, more options will come up from new opinions. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 18:49, May 12, 2019 (EDT)
:Agreed. And, if all else fails, we could always settle this with '''a battle to the death'''. ''(Dun dun dun)'' Jokes aside, I might take the split message down for the time being, seeing as how there's a page where everybody is discussing the concept of which moves should and shouldn't be split. Of course, if I'm allowed to. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 15:18, May 16, 2019 (EDT)

It was [[Forum:Categorizing_Special_Moves|decided]] that this move should not split. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 16:12, June 1, 2019 (EDT)
:I re-read that forum, and it said that if two out of three match, discuss it first. Super Jump Punch shares its name and general concept across each character, but vastly differs between each variant. It’s not the best idea to say we’ve come to a consensus yet. [[User:Lou Cena|Lou Cena]] ([[User talk:Lou Cena|talk]]) 17:08, June 1, 2019 (EDT)
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