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== About the term ‘units’ == | == About the term ‘units’ == | ||
Also, even if it ends up staying the same with this ‘units’ business, at least change it from units of wood to units of wooden planks, as ‘wood’ on its own doesn’t exist in minecraft, only x logs and x planks exist, and should Steve collect logs it is immediately converted to wood. [[User:MetaKnightX6|MetaKnightX6]] ([[User talk:MetaKnightX6|talk]]) 20:54, August 11, 2021 (EDT) | I believe minecraft terms mean minecraft vocab, and no minecraft player calls wooden planks or iron ingots ‘units of wood or units of iron’. It’s even labelled as Wooden Plank and Iron ingot in the minecraft ingame crafting guide! Sure this is smash, but we still gotta go by their vocabulary. | ||
[[User:MetaKnightX6|MetaKnightX6]] ([[User talk:MetaKnightX6|talk]]) 20:54, August 11, 2021 (EDT) | |||
Also, even if it ends up staying the same with this ‘units’ business, at least change it from units of wood to units of wooden planks, as ‘wood’ on its own doesn’t exist in minecraft, only x logs and x planks exist, and should Steve collect logs it is immediately converted to wood. | |||
[[User:MetaKnightX6|MetaKnightX6]] ([[User talk:MetaKnightX6|talk]]) 20:54, August 11, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Some pedantry, [https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Wood wood] does exist in ''Minecraft''. But on the larger topic, "unit" is a better term because it is more general. Steve mines 1 iron ingot, yet places an iron block for 1/9th the cost in Minecraft, so generalizing to a "unit" is more flexible; same issues exist with his other crafts. In my experience most people refer to whatever log/log-derivative they are using as "wood" unless they are using a specific variant for a build; and even then, they'll likely just say "wood" or "spruce/birch/oak/etc." instead of the full name for brevity. Most people will understand what it means, similar to how ''Smash'' players understand "tech" for the official term "ukemi". --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 21:26, August 11, 2021 (EDT) | :Some pedantry, [https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Wood wood] does exist in ''Minecraft''. But on the larger topic, "unit" is a better term because it is more general. Steve mines 1 iron ingot, yet places an iron block for 1/9th the cost in Minecraft, so generalizing to a "unit" is more flexible; same issues exist with his other crafts. In my experience most people refer to whatever log/log-derivative they are using as "wood" unless they are using a specific variant for a build; and even then, they'll likely just say "wood" or "spruce/birch/oak/etc." instead of the full name for brevity. Most people will understand what it means, similar to how ''Smash'' players understand "tech" for the official term "ukemi". --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 21:26, August 11, 2021 (EDT) | ||
::My take on the matter (as a seasoned ''Minecraft'' player) is that we must use some unifying plural noun that fits all of them - there's no saying "woods" or "stones" or "irons," and the admittedly bland and uninspired term "units" is the simplest and most universal term we have. You note that "we still gotta go by their vocabulary" and while most of the time I would agree, using the term "units" lets you say stuff like "units of wood, stone, and iron" as opposed to "planks of wood, pieces of stone, and ingots of iron." Not a huge fan of this rule, but [[SW:OFFICIAL|SmashWiki is not official]], and even the people making this game messed around with terminology - see the Tips menu and the Mr. Sakurai presentation. | ::My take on the matter (as a seasoned ''Minecraft'' player) is that we must use some unifying plural noun that fits all of them - there's no saying "woods" or "stones" or "irons," and the admittedly bland and uninspired term "units" is the simplest and most universal term we have. You note that "we still gotta go by their vocabulary" and while most of the time I would agree, using the term "units" lets you say stuff like "units of wood, stone, and iron" as opposed to "planks of wood, pieces of stone, and ingots of iron." Not a huge fan of this rule, but [[SW:OFFICIAL|SmashWiki is not official]], and even the people making this game messed around with terminology - see the Tips menu and the Mr. Sakurai presentation. | ||
