Editing Talk:Porygon

Shouldn't Porygon have it's on page? Charmander has one, so I think Porygon should have one too. I tried to create the page, but I couldn't because this page here exists. Can someone help? [[File:TepigSprite.png]][[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 14:25, 24 January 2016 (EST)
:I am unsure why it doesn't already have one. Porygon is a significant element in 2 games and I think it's a trophy in Melee. If you want to create it, just overwrite it's current contents. Try to model the page after another Pokemon article like [[Charmander]] for example. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 14:30, 24 January 2016 (EST)
:Checked, and it's not a trophy so...there's that. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 14:33, 24 January 2016 (EST)
::I say go for it. Every other hazard on Saffron City has one. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:34, 24 January 2016 (EST)
:::Yeah, I agree. (And I'd do it but I'm kinda busy) <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  15:02, 24 January 2016 (EST)

== Question ==

Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but whatever.

So I noticed that Serpent King added Porygon's artwork to the gallery. I went to the other Pokémon pages to see if they had the artwork too and maybe upload it, and a question popped up in my head: why is it that stage hazards and single-player enemies don't have their official art on their infoboxes? I mean, even Smash Tour items do, and I would consider hazards and enemies to be more important than them. [[File:TepigSprite.png]][[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 17:39, 24 January 2016 (EST)
:In-game screenshots from smash belong in the infoboxes, that's just the way it is. All of the stage hazards/enemies should have origin art elsewhere though. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 17:43, 24 January 2016 (EST)
:Also, it is acceptable for official '''Smash''' art to be in an infobox, but not outside sources, strike the base character pages. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 17:44, 24 January 2016 (EST)
::But wouldn't this page technically be the "base character page" for Porygon? Well, it doesn't matter. I guess I will upload the rest of the artwork anyways. [[File:TepigSprite.png]][[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 17:48, 24 January 2016 (EST)
:::By base page, I mean like [[Mario]] as opposed to [[Mario (SSB)]] (the smash art from smash games go to the relevant page, so therefore the base page gets non-smash art in the infobox) <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 17:50, 24 January 2016 (EST)
::::Well, this makes sense for playable characters, but what about assists and other characters? Take Ashley for example. She is a character important to Smash that only has a single page instead of multiple ones, and her infobox has art from WarioWare, with her gameplay screenshots in the gallery. However, Porygon is the reverse: the gameplay one is in the infobox and the official art is in the gallery. Shouldn't both be the same? Sorry if I'm being annoying, I have an OCD for consistency, as you can probably tell from some of my edits. :P [[File:TepigSprite.png]][[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 17:58, 24 January 2016 (EST)
:::::Nah you're good. Honestly, I think it's [[Ashley]] that needs changed in this case. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:01, 24 January 2016 (EST)

Artwork should be in the infobox for everything except Pokemon; this has been the standard for years. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:35, 24 January 2016 (EST)
:Why though, shouldn't the appearance in smash get the spotlight? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:37, 24 January 2016 (EST)
::Brawl ATs have their Brawl art in the infobox (or should). The difference is that they're the only category of minor character to have that, and instead approximate the layout of a [[Mario]] kind of page by using the best matching official artwork from the characters' home series. We hadn't done this for Pokemon since a) they're less distinct of characters generally; b) there's a lot more of them; c) they have their own infoboxes; and d) there's much less frequently issues of design changes over time. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:42, 24 January 2016 (EST)
:That standard doesn't make any sense at all. Other important characters have artwork on their infoboxes, I fail to see how hazards/enemies are any different. I mean, the frickin' ''Bus to the City'' deserves to have official artwork on it's infobox, yet Gastly doesn't? What's the reasoning behind it? [[File:TepigSprite.png]][[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 18:46, 24 January 2016 (EST)
::{{t|Infobox Character General}} =/= {{t|Pokémon}}, basically. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:49, 24 January 2016 (EST)
:::Sure, it's that way, but it could change. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 18:50, 24 January 2016 (EST)
::::If you want to propose that we change all the Poke Ball Pokemon and the like to Infobox Character General and put the art in the infobox, I'd say that's worth considering. However, I find including the Pokemon series official art quite clunky and undesirable under the current system. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:53, 24 January 2016 (EST)
:::::Agreed. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:54, 24 January 2016 (EST)
::::::I don't see what's "clunky" about including official artwork on the Pokémon tables. They are just like the character tables but with different things to fill in, so we could, in theory, use any images in these tables. However, if there's indeed a problem with doing it that I'm not aware of, that's fine. The inconsistency does bother me, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. [[File:TepigSprite.png]][[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 19:16, 24 January 2016 (EST)
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 :::::Agreed. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:54, 24 January 2016 (EST)
 ::::::I don't see what's "clunky" about including official artwork on the Pokémon tables. They are just like the character tables but with different things to fill in, so we could, in theory, use any images in these tables. However, if there's indeed a problem with doing it that I'm not aware of, that's fine. The inconsistency does bother me, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. [[File:TepigSprite.png]][[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 19:16, 24 January 2016 (EST)
-==Voice actor==
-Before a war breaks out, Bulba credits {{iw|Bulbapedia|Katsuyuki Konishi}} for the voice of Porygon in ''Smash 64'' and in the infamous EP038 (Electric Soldier Porygon). Around 10:10 of EP038 Dr. Akihabara's Porygon makes a noise similar to the voice clip used in ''Smash 64''. I think it is close enough to give him the credit. Do note that if you want to check the audio yourself, the seizure warning is from about 14:00-18:00; this is past the voice clip I mentioned and I don't recall hearing anything closer within or past that region. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 12:50, July 25, 2022 (EDT)
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