Editing Talk:Kirby

== Non Smahs Bio ==

I don't know a lot about Kirby's non-smash bio, so could someone please help me into making this longer. Thanks. Johnknight1 12:47, October 25, 2007 (EDT)
:That pretty much counts as incentive for me to create the whole Character description section for the page... I think I'll start work. Could you do all the game sections and images to make it like [[Mario]]? [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik, Lord of Universes]] 03:50, October 25, 2007 (EDT)

== Huh!? ==

Um...Why in the box is the gender female, when it says HE was created by so-and-so?
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==Recent Art== 
I'm confused about this now. This game was released after Brawl and is the most recent, but OT got rid of Link's most recent art. Explanation please?--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 15:40, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

== I think Megatron1 might have a point... ==

Maybe we should only have artwork of a character from a game released most recently before ''[[Brawl]]''. What do you all think? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 20:36, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
:Not at all.  Part of what Smash is important to SmashBros is the history of the games.  The trophies make this clear with showing different art from different games/eras.  We should include relevant images of the characters from all games and eras to show the development of the characters, especially those for whom it is unclear exactly which game their costume(s) are based off.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 20:55, July 16, 2010 (UTC)
::I agree that art should be updated (at least the one at the top of the page), as the articles are primarily about the characters as they are from outside Smash Bros. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 21:14, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

== Species ==

For some reason, the Swedish SSBM manual says that he is a ''bat''. This is awfully wrong, isn't it? – [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]]<sub>[[user talk:Smiddle|T]]</sub> 04:38, 3 January 2011 (EST)
:While it is wrong, there may be a partial explanation. In Kirby's Dreamland 3, there are Kirby-shaped enemies called Batamon. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Bold 09:49, 3 January 2011 (EST)
::Batamon? Sounds like a Digimon. This isn't notable enough trivia, is it? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 11:59, 3 January 2011 (EST)
:::[http://kirby.wikia.com/wiki/Batamon I understand why you would assume such a thing]. Not notable imo.<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 17:52, 3 January 2011 (EST)
::A ''bat''?! That's simply strange. I could see why they made that mistake, though. Meta Knight is supposed to be a Kirby, but his midair jump animation resembles a bat. [[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span><span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]]  19:30, 3 January 2011 (EST)
:::Strangely enough, this was Melee, so no Meta Knight. – [[User:Smiddle|Smiddle]]<sub>[[user talk:Smiddle|T]]</sub> 19:53, 3 January 2011 (EST)

== Fighting Game ==

Hi! I notice that Mario, Mega Man, Pac-Man Link, Snake, Little Mac, and DK mention on their page that they appeared in a fighting game other that smash bros. Well, Kirby Triple Deluxe has a Fighting Game built in. That can not be argued. You can't say that Kirby Fighters is Super Smash Bros and tell the truth. So you should REALLY mention this on Kirby's file as well. :) [[Special:Contributions/72.105.72.143|72.105.72.143]] 10:39, 30 June 2014 (EDT)
:Kirby Fighters is a sub-game, so I'm not sure that it counts. However, you do have a point. I think this is worth discussing. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 11:51, 30 June 2014 (EDT)
:This trivia point on articles should just be wiped altogether. There are so many characters it applies to at this point, it's nothing really notable anymore. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 12:21, 30 June 2014 (EDT)
::I agree. It has become really long and pointless now. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]] 12:25, 30 June 2014 (EDT)
:::Agreed. Especially if more Smash fighters appear in other fighting games in the future, it'll be too tedious to have to add to every page with that point. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 12:50, 30 June 2014 (EDT)

== Hmm... ==

Is it okay if I add his ''Planet Robobot'' artwork image to the infobox? [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 01:12, 15 May 2016 (EDT)
:To what end? His Triple Deluxe design is basically identical. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:29, 15 May 2016 (EDT)

== Smash 4 Dark Blue Kirby ==

The dark blue color swap looks exactly like Meta Knight without the mask. In Kirby: Planet Robobot, Meta Knight (as Mecha Knight) can be seen without the mask before quickly leaving when you defeat him.  [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]]  10:45, 13 June 2016 (EDT)
:I couldn't see his face very clearly when I beat him, but A. Mecha Knight was clearly a pretty different shade of blue than the costume and B. we probably wouldn't need to mention this anyway, since Planet Robobot came out after Smash 4. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 11:26, 13 June 2016 (EDT)

== Trivia Confusion ==

Ok, so I know Banjo appeared in Diddy Kong Racing, and Sonic appeared in some racing game as an air freshener or something, but what game did Kirby appearing before Kirby's Dream Land (1992). He appeared as a cursor in Earthbound's debug menu, but that was in 1994.

[[User:GuyThatExists|GuyThatExists]] ([[User talk:GuyThatExists|talk]]) 23:00, June 11, 2019 (EDT)

== Kirby Hat Trophies ==

Why aren't the Kirby Hat trophies included alongside his other trophies from Melee? [[User:Shadow2|Shadow2]] ([[User talk:Shadow2|talk]]) 10:47, March 14, 2021 (EDT)

== Kirby's first appearance: Kirby's Dream Land or Arcana? ==

I'd like some discussion about Kirby's first appearance since there's some conflict between edits on if Kirby first starred in Arcana or Kirby's Dream Land. For reference, here is Kirby's [https://wikirby.com/wiki/List_of_references_to_the_Kirby_series#Arcana supposed cameo in Arcana].

Arguments for this being Kirby's first appearance include Arcana also being developed by HAL Laboratory, the game releasing exactly a month before Kirby's Dream Land meaning the timeframe matches up, and it just unmistakably ressembles the pink puffball. 

However, counterarguments include the fact that Kirby's cameo in this game isn't as clear-cut as Sonic's cameo in Rad Mobile, Masahiro Sakurai had no involvement with Arcana (though longtime Kirby composer Jun Ishikawa was involved with Arcana), and there's two Kirbies present rather than just the one.

So the question is: which of these two games should be mentioned as Kirby's debut? Would really like some discussion on this. [[User:Meeper12346|Meeper12346]] ([[User talk:Meeper12346|talk]]) 21:39, April 12, 2022 (EDT)

:Considering the cameo is questionable and just a cameo, I think it's best to have his actual debut mentioned with a nod to Arcana in the trivia section at most. [[User:Zeckemyro|Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck]] ([[User talk:Zeckemyro|talk]]) 21:44, April 12, 2022 (EDT)
::I think there's a good chance it is Kirby. The reference image has a lot of detailed spritework save for "Kirby"&mdash;if it was a normal enemy like a slime I'd imagine they'd at least put some shine on it, instead it is very simplistic like Kirby appears in Kirby's Dream Land. While Sakurai had no involvement on Arcana, he is listed as a "special thanks". --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 22:15, April 12, 2022 (EDT)
:::I've touched on this [[Special:Diff/1624292|on the ''Kingdom Hearts'' spirits page]], but it is my belief that character debuts should be based on more than a cameo/teased appearance. It's nice to see stuff get teased beforehand, but there is a difference between Banjo debuting in Diddy Kong Racing or Roy debuting in Melee, and Kirby appearing in Arcana or Sonic appearing in Rad Mobile. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: pink;">'''the Springing Rurouni'''</span>]] 22:16, April 12, 2022 (EDT)
::::If that's the case, then I feel as though the mention of Sonic's debut in Rad Mobile [[Sonic the Hedgehog|should be removed from his article]]. Either both Arcana and Rad Mobile should be mentioned, or neither of them should be mentioned.[[User:Meeper12346|Meeper12346]] ([[User talk:Meeper12346|talk]]) 11:09, April 13, 2022 (EDT)
:::::I agree with that. Simple cameos shouldn't count as actual debuts. [[User:Zeckemyro|Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck]] ([[User talk:Zeckemyro|talk]]) 13:15, April 13, 2022 (EDT)
<small>(Reset indent)</small>If we're not counting the ''Final Mix'' secret endings as debuts, then I'd also add Dark Samus's debut to the list, since her appearance in the first ''Prime'' game's secret ending basically counts as a debut as much as the ''Birth by Sleep'' trio's appearance in ''Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix''{{'}}s secret ending. [[File:JacketTerraSig1.png|20px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:JacketTerraSig2.png|20px]] 13:44, April 13, 2022 (EDT)
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