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| ==Hero confirmed a July release by Nintendo== | | ==Hero confirmed a July release by Nintendo== |
| As expected by some; Hero will 100% be coming by the end of July. This was pretty much confirmed by Nintendo on YouTube in a video focused on releases in July, and one of them was Hero. No exact date was given still; but it is expected to be either the 18th or the 25th in America. (19th and 26th to other regions such as Japan and Europe.) <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:86.183.147.80|86.183.147.80]] ([[User talk:86.183.147.80|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/86.183.147.80|contribs]]) 16:17, July 16th, 2019 (EDT)</small> | | As expected by some; Hero will 100% be coming by the end of July. This was pretty much confirmed by Nintendo on YouTube in a video focused on releases in July, and one of them was Hero. No exact date was given still; but it is expected to be either the 18th or the 25th in America. (19th and 26th to other regions such as Japan and Europe.) {{unsigned|86.183.147.80|16:17, July 16th, 2019 (EDT)}} |
| :First off, new sections go at the bottom. Secondly, [[SW:SIGN|sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]]. Thirdly, we'll report on Hero's release date when we have an official source expressing such; the wiki is no place for speculation. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 18:46, July 16, 2019 (EDT) | | :First off, new sections go at the bottom. Secondly, [[SW:SIGN|sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>]]. Thirdly, we'll report on Hero's release date when we have an official source expressing such; the wiki is no place for speculation. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 18:46, July 16, 2019 (EDT) |
| :First of all. The video's title specifically stated July releases at first, so don't give me this "speculation" crap. Second of all; thanks for making it clear that new things go on the top, i clearly read the goddamn notice on this page. Nice to see how kind this wiki is to new users. [[Special:Contributions/86.183.147.80|86.183.147.80]] 14:30, July 17, 2019 (EDT) | | :First of all. The video's title specifically stated July releases at first, so don't give me this "speculation" crap. Second of all; thanks for making it clear that new things go on the top, i clearly read the goddamn notice on this page. Nice to see how kind this wiki is to new users. [[Special:Contributions/86.183.147.80|86.183.147.80]] 14:30, July 17, 2019 (EDT) |
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| I just noticed that the DQ3 skin is refered everywhere on the wiki as "Erdrick". I can understand the Hero default skin to be refered as Luminary rather than Eleven, but, as Erdrick is a title that isn't unique to Arusu in the DQ series, wouldn't it be better to use his actual name for his skin rather than his title? Plus, the word Erdrick itself is already used in the game for the Mii Swordfighter DQ2 costume. [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 18:53, February 18, 2020 (EST) | | I just noticed that the DQ3 skin is refered everywhere on the wiki as "Erdrick". I can understand the Hero default skin to be refered as Luminary rather than Eleven, but, as Erdrick is a title that isn't unique to Arusu in the DQ series, wouldn't it be better to use his actual name for his skin rather than his title? Plus, the word Erdrick itself is already used in the game for the Mii Swordfighter DQ2 costume. [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 18:53, February 18, 2020 (EST) |
| :[[Talk:Hero/Archive 1|Extremely long story short,]] we went with "Erdrick" because that's the most widely-known moniker for the ''DQIII'' Hero, and we'd decided on our names based on input from the ''Dragon Quest'' community before Sakurai's video came out. Arusu was essentially unknown to overseas audiences before Sakurai broke it out for the presentation (it mostly pops up in Japan-only promo material like ''DQIII''{{'}}s radio drama adaptation), and by then we'd already locked ours in. It's preferable for us to go with the term that's more commonly used even if it's not "official"; for another example, see "[[tech]]" versus "fall break". (As an aside, the Erdrick Mii Costume is [https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0318/2649/products/51JRAimMwNL_large.jpg based on the ''DQIII'' hero]; it's just that other characters have worn the same armor.) ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 19:29, February 18, 2020 (EST)
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| ::I don't know if it's good enough of a reason to keep it that way now Sakurai introduced him as Arusu. After all, most people consider Jigglypuff to be female, yet the wiki goes with a more official neutral "it". [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 04:58, February 19, 2020 (EST)
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| :::Using gender neutral pronouns for a character whose gender is unknown isn't really the same thing as using a more widely known moniker. Not to mention that the DQ III hero was for a long time (prior to DQ XI) the only one that was referred with the title of Erdrick/Loto and is therefore still most strongly associated with these names. Even things like the DQ I hero's armor that appears as a Mii Costume in Smash is a regalia that originally belonged to the DQ III hero in lore. --[[User:Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] ([[User talk:Rdrfc|talk]]) 05:43, February 19, 2020 (EST)
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| ::::Not that I'm trying to push for that change (I call him Erdrick too afterall) but here is the sameness that I was implying: Arusu = official, Erdrick = popular; It(Jigglypuff) = official, She(Jigglypuff) = popular. [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 05:52, February 19, 2020 (EST)
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| :::::Arusu is not an official name according to Sakurai himself. He said something along the lines of "Arusu is a name commonly given to him by Japanese fans, but you can call him whatever you like" during the presentation. --[[User:Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] ([[User talk:Rdrfc|talk]]) 05:57, February 19, 2020 (EST)
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| ::::::Arusu is an official name, it's not not simply a fanmade name like you seem to think it is, it's used in official material. Also, don't forget Sakurai's statements are translated. [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 06:28, February 19, 2020 (EST)
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| :::::::Allow me to better explain myself. Arusu and Erdrick/Loto are both official names within ''Dragon Quest'', although neither is arguably fully canonical. Within ''Smash'', the ''Dragon Quest III'' hero does not have an official name. Sakurai was simply saying that the Heroes do not have an official name in Smash, and therefore we can call them with whatever name we like (unless you can prove that a completely different statement was lost in translation). This wiki chose to use the name Erdrick because it is the one better understood by English speaking fans. --[[User:Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] ([[User talk:Rdrfc|talk]]) 07:01, February 19, 2020 (EST)
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| ::::::::Oh, OK. I thought indeed that you were talking about Arusu not being official in DQ, not especially in Smash. However, I don't think Sakurai said anything more than the fact that the Hero of DQ3 can be named anything you want in DQ3, just like Robin (but it doesn't nullify your point as Robin is officially Robin in Smash too, unlike Arusu). I think you're reading to much in what Sakurai says. [[User:YoshiRyu|YoshiRyu]] ([[User talk:YoshiRyu|talk]]) 07:31, February 19, 2020 (EST)
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| :::::::::The name Arusu was only really only said in the American direct, all four hero’s names are not said ingame also This wiki doesn’t use the official name of some pages. [[User:Thegameandwatch|Thegameandwatch]] ([[User talk:Thegameandwatch|talk]]) 07:03, February 19, 2020 (EST)
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| == Fun Fact: DQ8 ==
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| The voice actor of Eight, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuki_Kaji Yuji Kaji], married [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayana_Taketatsu Ayana Taketatsu] on June 23, 2019 (12 days after the ''Smash'' trailer reveal) who did the voice of [https://dragonquest.fandom.com/wiki/Jessica_Albert Jessica Albert] in ''Dragon Quest Heroes'' I & II and ''Dragon Quest VIII'' (I am guessing is just a new feature for the 3DS version like the DQ11 on Switch) who is a marriage option in the 3DS version of DQ8. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 01:13, March 31, 2022 (EDT)
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