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I really need info if Brawl and SSB4 omit Devil in several stages because granted, I HAVE seen footage of Devil spawning in certain stages where he can't appear in Ultimate, but I wanna know if Brawl and SSB4 really do have Devil's file disabled in several stages because, if it turns out that Devil is actually spawnable in every single stage from both of those previous Smash game installments, then i'd say that is beyond incredible! However, whenever I replayed both Brawl and Wii U (I barely replayed 3DS because 1: it lost save data and 2: because only my sister owns a 3DS), there have been several stages in which I went to Training Mode, and no matter how many times I summon a random Assist Trophy (yup! The Smash games where Assist Trophy limits on several stages was less severe, is also the same Smash games where Random is forced upon you >_>), never once did I get a single Devil! These yet-to-be-seen stages for Devil include:


  • Delfino Plaza
  • Mushroomy Kingdom
  • Mario Bros.
  • Rumble Falls
  • 75m
  • Brinstar
  • Norfair
  • Port Town Aero Dive
  • Summit
  • WarioWare Inc. (not that I remember, at least)
  • Hanenbow
  • Shadow Moses Island

Wii U

  • All of the afore-listed Brawl stages.
  • Mario Circuit (MK8 version)
  • Peach's Castle 64
  • Luigi's Mansion (unlike Brawl)
  • Super Mario Maker
  • Hyrule Castle 64
  • Pirate Ship (Ω form only)
  • Skyloft
  • Dream Land 64
  • The Great Cave Offensive
  • Onett (unlike Brawl)
  • Coliseum
  • Palutena's Temple
  • Wii Fit Studio
  • Wuhu Island
  • Wrecking Crew
  • Pac-Land
  • Suzaku Castle
  • Midgar

As I said before, the reason I didn't list Smash for 3DS stages is because I haven't had gotten access to that game in months. In SSB4, I will have the same concern for Andross, but as it stands now, I really need heads-up about whether it is true or not that Brawl and SSB4 ban some Assist Trophies on a few particular stages, or if it's just an unlucky coincidence that Random never gives me Devil! (The reason I am this curious about Devil's availability in both Brawl and SSB4 ain't just because Ultimate removes Devil in more than half of the game's selectable stages, but also because the fact that Devil allows me to experience boundary-breaks without hacking my game Smash, really blows my mind up!)

One last thing: I am an autistic teenager who hasn't learned that much on how to navigate a video-game's files to know which stages guaranteed to never have this character (items are a different story for two reasons! 1: The item-switch really helps make their stage-omissions easier to know and 2: Because at least both Brawl and SSB4 allow me to use any item on any stage in Training Mode, even if they are disabled in VS Matches), so yeah! That concludes my huge message of a doubt that I needed to get out of my chest (GameFAQS doesn't even help me at all because my questions and/or topics typically remain unnoticed)! So if anyone has any clue if Brawl and SSB4 do ban Assist Trophies (such as Devil) on certain stages indeed (even tho it's definitely less severe than Ultimate), please let me know!

--NinTOONdo (talk) 14:42, August 12, 2020 (EDT)NinTOONdo