Editing Talk:Bowser (SSB4)

==Shellguard?==
Given [[:Image:HomingAttackonBower.jpg|this image]] along with its [https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAADOUgHsw2p9jQ Miiverse caption] of "Sonic, failure.", it's at least heavily implied that Bowser has some form of shell-based defense of currently unknown mechamism. Would saying something like that be too speculatory to put in the article? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Multifaceted 12:07, 27 November 2013 (EST)
:There also seems to be a visual effect above Bowser. Seems like his shell defend ability from M&L BiS. I'd say don't add it in just yet though. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 12:09, 27 November 2013 (EST)
:I'm with Scr7 on this one. Possible that's what Sakurai was going for, but it could just be a caption for humor's sake. We should hold off for now. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:43, 27 November 2013 (EST)
::In the Little Mac reveal trailer, Bowser is seen being shot by Mega Man from behind without flinching. Mega Mans mega buster shots are shown to cause flinching in earlier videos, so it seems a bit strange. It it worth mentioning in the article? Even if the shell doesnt provide knockback resistance from projectiles, it at least means Bowser has some level of base knockback resistance, something no characters have had before. [[User:FirstaLasto|FirstaLasto]] ([[User talk:FirstaLasto|talk]]) 14:07, 15 February 2014 (EST)

== More Claw Swipes --> Punches ==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OST5jvRKUe4#t=100
At around 1:38, you can see that Bowser's Jab has been changed from two Claw Swipes to two Punches, much like the page mentions his Down A neutrals have. Minor aesthetic change, I know, but worth mentioning anyway. [[User:Burb|burb]]

==Changed the most?==
Is it really accurate to say that now? Pit has had 3 of 4 special moves changed, Shiek, Zero Suit Samus & Charizard are now their own characters. Should the difference in his animations be emphasized instead? [[Special:Contributions/109.149.14.224|109.149.14.224]] 13:22, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
:"Changed the most" includes everything, and with Bowser, he has been shown not only to have entirely new animations, but also a plethora of new moves (more than anyone else so far, including Pit), along with many apparent altered moves and new mechanics (like the armor). That's more changes than anyone else has been shown so far. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:27, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

==Fireball==
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odUjMhc6YgU
At 2:20, we can see Bowser spitting fireballs. This may be part of the customization of his Fire Breath move.

It definitely is seeing as it's not his normal move and it makes sense since Bowser's classic move was shooting fireballs. [[User:Leeyawshee|Leeyawshee]] ([[User talk:Leeyawshee|talk]]) 01:41, 21 June 2014 (EDT)
:That move is a faster version of Mario's Fire Orb move. [[User:The Smash Brotha|The Smash Brotha]] ([[User talk:The Smash Brotha|talk]]) 10:01, 31 July 2014 (EDT)

== All alts confirmed by Famitsu. ==

http://i.imgur.com/PMVzhyP.jpg

Bowser's alts are green, black, yellow, dark green, white, purple, red and blue. http://www.mariowiki.com/images/3/35/BowserSMBart.png Blue is likely based on the first drawings by him where he appeared as a blue tyrant rather than the green and orange we know him today.

Also, all of Bowser's taunts have been revealed; they are the same as Brawl.

Could this page be updated with those?

[[User:ImSpidey2|ImSpidey2]] ([[User talk:ImSpidey2|talk]]) 17:05, 10 September 2014 (EDT)

== Bowser's voice has been changed. ==

Bowser's voice has changed, and his reused clips have been digitally enhanced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5moTz4VZE0

At 4:40, his roar has definitely changed.

[[User:ImSpidey2|ImSpidey2]] ([[User talk:ImSpidey2|talk]]) 06:43, 12 September 2014 (EDT)

== Bowser's Down Air ==

I'd like to note that Bowser's Down Air CAN Meteor Smash, though it is very risky to do and can easily lead to a suicidal attack, so it's best used at the edge, and since the player can control its trajectory while descending, he/she can prevent falling from the platform. On side note, I can't edit his page yet, because it's protected, but my account is older than four days, so I should technically be able to semi-edit... Why I can't? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:El Rocky Raccoon|El Rocky Raccoon]] ([[User talk:El Rocky Raccoon|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/El Rocky Raccoon|contribs]]) 11:59, 11 October 2014 (EDT)</small>
:One, can you prove (via video) that Bowser's d-air can meteor smash? Two, sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). Third, in order to edit semi-protected pages, you need to be [[SW:AUTO|autoconfirmed]]; while you've been here for more than 7 days, you need to make at least 10 edits, which you haven't done. <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 12:03, 11 October 2014 (EDT)

== "Koopa Klaw" ==

The custom special isn't called Koopa Klaw, it's called Dash Slash. [[Special:Contributions/65.96.242.22|65.96.242.22]] 18:42, 11 October 2014 (EDT)
:Can confirm this, I didn't realize this hadn't been changed yet. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 20:35, 11 October 2014 (EDT)

== Changes from Brawl to Wii U ==

If anyone's still editing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmsndkum6fU&list=UUgnLC4DvPRcXHo4u605BKpw [[Special:Contributions/64.237.228.78|64.237.228.78]] 08:12, 25 November 2014 (EST)

== VA ==

Eric Newsome does not voice Bowser in either Brawl or 3DS/Wii U. His sound clips are all sound effects generated by a computer. The only time Newsome has ever played Bowser was in SUPER PAPER MARIO.[[Special:Contributions/72.50.80.236|72.50.80.236]]
:No wonder why Bowser has no voice actor [[List of voice actors|listed]]...and even ''if'' Bowser had a voice actor in Smash, the most likely candidate would be, according to [[mariowiki:Bowser|this]], Kenny James, who has voiced the King of Koopas for at least 7 years now. [[File:AidanzapunkSig.jpg]][[User:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''BlueStreak'''</span>]] [[User talk:BlueStreak|<span style="color: blue;">'''Speeds By'''</span>]] 08:52, 9 January 2015 (EST)
::Exactly. Even his original actor, Scott Burns would get a better shot, and we all know he wasn't exactly the best. Fun fact: Kenny James actually voiced Bowser earlier than 2007. He first voiced him in SUPER MARIO STRIKERS in 2005, but only during the intro and even then, all the sounds being made made it hard to hear. GALAXY would be the first game James became semi-permanent (as Burns came and went in between titles, even co-voicing Bowser with James in GALAXY 2), and would wholly become permanent in 2010 after GALAXY 2.[[Special:Contributions/72.50.82.3|72.50.82.3]]
OHMYPUPPIESSUPERPAPERMARIOOHMYPUPPIES  i'm [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]] the smashbro pro!([[User talk:Valehd|talk]]) 18:41, 12 February 2015 (EST)

== Bowser Bomb Shield Break? ==

Does it really do that? I've shielded it a bunch of times and took about half my shield but it never broke. [[User:Shadow|Shadow]] ([[User talk:Shadow|talk]]) 15:10, 3 March 2015 (EST)
:I believe the confusion stems from conflating several of Bowser Bomb's hitboxes; I think the shield break is only guaranteed if Bowser uses the move from the ground and the opponent shields all of the following: Bowser's upward jump, the aerial impact of the move on the shield, and Bowser's landing impact. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:12, 3 March 2015 (EST)

:https://youtu.be/cRnlYvWfmq0?t=45s Aerial Bowser Bomb shield break, so I guess it really needs to connect with all its hitboxes. [[User:Shadow|Shadow]] ([[User talk:Shadow|talk]]) 16:00, 28 May 2015 (EDT)

== Apologies for my edit summary. ==

I meant to say Smash Highlights. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 21:45, 19 August 2015 (EDT)

== Bowser's forward smash ==

Is it stronger or weaker than in Melee? I know Melee's has more base knockback (23 base to 30 base) but what about the growth? [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 09:48, 22 August 2015 (EDT)

== Bowser's custom down (B). ==

I can't tell if those 2 IPs are the same person, but anyway, I use Turbulent Bomb myself, and I really do find it successful. Not only does it push away recovering foes, but it can push foes away that try to attack you while you're "vulnerable." [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:35, 7 March 2016 (EST)

My point is, should I undo that edit again? [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:51, 7 March 2016 (EST)

== Reopening a topic ==

About a year ago, back when I was a tyrannical, communally damaging idiot, I decided to question whether Bowser is actually more powerful than he was in ''Melee''. We already know that the speed comparison to ''Brawl'' is accurate, but I think the other is a bit extreme. So without antagonizing innocent users, can someone please give me proof as to Bowser's power in this game vs ''Melee''? [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''The Evil Clone'''</span>]] 22:37, 6 June 2017 (EDT)

:[[tier list|here's your proof]]. [[User:Alex Parpotta|Alex Parpotta]] ([[User talk:Alex Parpotta|talk]]) 03:13, 7 June 2017 (EDT)

Compare his buffs and nerfs between the 3 games.  [[File:Area51Guard.png|x25px|link=]] [[User:Boo Buddy|<span style="color:#994d00">A51</span>]] [[User talk:Boo Buddy|<span style="color:#663300">Trooper</span>]] 04:28, 7 June 2017 (EDT)

Uhhhh....that's not what I meant at ''all''. I didn't mean viability (you'd be genuinely stupid to think that Bowser in Melee is better than Bowser in Smash 4), I meant raw attack power. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''The Evil Clone'''</span>]] 09:47, 5 July 2017 (EDT)
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