Smasher talk:KL Kid

I tried to do it via a redirect to a page that may exist in the future, but seeing as that isn't preferred by some people around I'll just note here that KL Kid is the former name of JoeyBats. He hasn't gone by KL Kid in years. --SimnaibnSind (talk) 09:33, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

It wouldn't just be "some people", JoeyBats isn't even a page, we cannot redirect to something that hasn't exist yet... NPM Morr!? 09:41, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

On the one hand you have a page that doesn't exist. On the other hand you have a page that redirects to one that doesn't exist. To me it sounds like both hands are equally empty. But it's okay now; I created the page. --SimnaibnSind (talk) 10:11, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

Having empty pages redirecting to empty pages is completely useless and meaningless to the wiki. It is as simple as that. NPM Morr!? 10:35, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

I disagree. Redirecting to a empty page is useful as a placeholder for a page that should or will exist. They would be even better if the redirect link remained red instead of turning blue but that's an issue deeper inside of the wiki structure. Pages aren't just being redirected to for fun; you have to consider the reasoning behind it. --SimnaibnSind (talk) 19:34, September 6, 2022 (EDT)

It sounds like you have no idea what it will do to the wiki. It is a very bad idea. Imagine readers seeing that we have a bunch of empty pages redirecting to other empty pages. This isn't a "for fun" issue, we don't preemptively redirect a page that doesn't even exist yet. Thats basically no point and is a zero effort article. And why should the redirect link remains red that doesn't make sense? NPM Morr!? 01:10, September 7, 2022 (EDT)

If the redirect link that leads to a non-existent page remains red then people won't be tempted to click on it. The idea, at least in the case here, for redirecting from this page to that other page was to let other potential article-creators know that this page (Smasher:KL Kid) should not be created and that the page they should be creating is the one being directed to (Smasher:JoeyBats). If the text on the page was kept red then it would likely only ever be noticed by anyone trying to create a new page. --SimnaibnSind (talk) 05:52, September 7, 2022 (EDT)

And this is all, of course, speaking in the case where Smasher:JoeyBats was a page that didn't exist. Now that it does exist that reasoning no longer applies to this case.--SimnaibnSind (talk) 05:54, September 7, 2022 (EDT)

I still don't know what you are saying. I don't get your obsession with "redirecting a non-exsistent page". KL Kid simply shouldn't be created preemptively to redirect to a non-exsistent page. Even if someone messes up a new page, we can always move it to the current tag with the move button and the old tag will remain as a redirect. NPM Morr!? 07:13, September 7, 2022 (EDT)

Yes its like a move! The difference being that it's preemptive so that a person who knows what the page should be doesn't have to wait around for someone to make the wrong page and then move it. The issue of having the wrong page made is solved without the need to create the entire correct page yourself. The reasoning is very simple so I'm not sure what the confusion is. I'm also not sure why I'm being called out for an "obsession" what with this being something I have done one time. I think it is useful to consider function even when that function does not fall in line with common procedure.--SimnaibnSind (talk) 16:34, September 7, 2022 (EDT)