Editing King Dedede (PM)

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King Dedede ranks 34th out of 41 on the [[Project M#Tier list|official]] [[tier list]], near the top of the D tier. This is a large drop from his position on the ''Brawl'' tier list, where he is ranked 12th out of 38. In the official [[Project +]] tier list, he places 41th out of 42, placing in D tier.  

King Dedede is a character whose strengths lie in his offense. Every one of his attacks boasts speed, power, reach, or hitbox placement, giving him a powerful neutral and punish game. He also has great comboing ability, having combo starters such as his up throw and combo finishers such as his forward aerial. He also has superb camping abilities due to his aforementioned reach and hitbox placements, as well as his versatile Waddle Dee Toss. He also has a highly above average recovery thanks to his many jumps, the new airdodge physics, and his useful Super Dedede Jump. However, Dedede's biggest boon is his back aerial; despite it having less range than in ''Brawl'', his higher air speed and the removal of [[hitstun canceling]] allow it to wall of pain better. It also maintains its minimal lag, long duration, power, and still has a favorable hitbox placement.

King Dedede gained both [[buff]]s and [[nerf]]s from ''Brawl'' to PM. The buffs made him better offensively, but worse defensively, almost turning him into a glass cannon. Despite having been slightly buffed overall, he is considered to be worse relative to the cast due to the loss of his chain throw and many characters gaining new options to outclass his own.  

*{{change|King Dedede [[fall]]s much faster (1.95 → 2.25), however, Dedede falls much slower relative to the rest of the cast than in ''Brawl'', going from the fastest to the 10th fastest fall speed. This nerfs his vertical endurance and his ability to mix-up landings, but makes him less susceptible to combos relative to the cast than in ''Brawl'', and gives him a much better [[SHFFL]].}}

*{{nerf|Spot dodge has a new animation where Dedede now moves out of the Z axis as soon as his intangibility has worn off making his spot dodge much easier to punish.}}

*{{buff|The first two hits of [[neutral attack]] have decreased start-up (first hit: frame 12 → 9, second hit: frame 11 → 9) with longer duration on the first hit (2 frames → 3), and significantly faster [[interruptibility]] frames on both hits (FAF 38 → 28 (hit 1), 28 → 25 (hit 2)). The first hit now has a hitbox which launches vertically (361° → 80°) and the second hit now has consistent knockback (20 (base), 50 (scaling) → 55/0) and its angle has been altered (85° → 90°) making it connect better.}}

*{{nerf|Neutral attack's multi hits have smaller hitboxes.}}

*{{buff|[[Forward tilt]] deals more damage (6%/4% → 12%/9%), making it much stronger despite it's decreased knockback scaling (80/100 → 70/80). It also deals more [[shield damage]] (0 → 9 (clean), 0 → 6 (late)), and has more reach (4.5u → 5.7u).}}

*{{buff|[[Up tilt]] has less ending lag (FAF 40 → 34).}}

*{{nerf|Up tilt now only grants intangibility to Dedede's head as opposed to his whole body. The universally increased falling speeds combined with the altered knockback formula also hinder its KO potential against most characters.}}

*{{nerf|Down tilt has smaller hitboxes (6u → 4.92u (clean), 4u → 3.279983u (late)) and can no longer [[trip]].}}

*{{buff|[[Dash attack]] has a larger hitbox (5u → 6.9u), and now gives King Dedede heavy [[armor]] between frames 8-29, significantly improving its utility. It also sends opponents at a different angle (361° → 35°) now being a [[semi-spike]].}}

*{{nerf|Dash attack now has a weaker late hit which deals less damage (16%/14% → 10%).}}

*{{buff|[[Forward smash]] has more range, and the tip [[meteor smash]]es characters who are holding onto ledges. The early sourspot also deals more damage (13% → 16%) and the late hit deals more damage (5% → 12%) and knockback (100 (base), 30 (scaling) → 40/70). The late hit can also now hit aerial opponents.}}

*{{nerf|Forward smash has a shorter duration (frame 42-54 → 42-50).}}

*{{buff|[[Up smash]] has much more range, less start-up with a longer duration (frame 20-24 → 17-23), much less ending lag (FAF 68 → 54), and both the sweetspot and the sourspot deal much more damage (14%/9% → 20%/17%), making it much stronger despite it's decreased knockback scaling (95/96 → 79/80).}}

*{{buff|The front hit of [[down smash]] deals more damage (15% → 18%), and the move now consistently sends opponents behind Dedede (105°/80°/50° → 130°/125°/120°), allowing him to KO opponents easier despite the front hit having less knockback scaling (82 → 79). It also has less ending lag (FAF 53 → 47).}}

*{{nerf|[[Neutral aerial]], [[forward aerial]], and [[back aerial]] have more landing lag (neutral aerial: 15 frames → 22, forward aerial: 30 frames → 32, back aerial: 21 frames → 22), though this is heavily compensated by [[L-cancelling]].}}

*{{nerf|Neutral aerial and forward aerial no longer [[auto-cancel]] in a [[short hop]] due to Dedede's higher gravity/falling speed as well as the latter auto-canceling later (frame 35 → 41).}}

*{{buff|King Dedede's increased air speed and the changes to hitstun/falling speeds/air-dodging also makes forward aerial and back aerial much more effective at [[wall of pain]] combos.}}  

*{{buff|Neutral aerial has less ending lag (FAF 40 → 38).}}

*{{buff|Neutral aerial sends opponents at a different angle (60° (clean)/80° (late) → 75°). When combined with the changes to the game's mechanics, this significantly improves its combo potential.}}

*{{buff|Forward aerial has less start-up with a longer duration (frames 16-18 → 13-18) longer range, and higher knockback scaling (90 → 100).}}

*{{nerf|Forward aerial has slightly increased ending lag (FAF 37 → 40).}}

*{{nerf|Back aerial has less range (8.5u → 5.534983u (clean), 7u → 4.92 (late)). The late hit also has a shorter duration (frames 9-25 → 9-21) now matching its animation and the move can no longer cause tripping. Lastly, Dedede can no longer perform two back aerials in a short hop due to his lower short hop.}}

*{{buff|Up aerial is now a single hit, which gives it increased reliability and [[juggling]] potential.}}

*{{nerf|Up aerial deals less damage (2% (hits 1-7) 19% (hit 8) → 12% (clean)/9% (late)) with its knockback compensated (50 (base), 130 (scaling) → (4/30)/85) and has a slightly shorter duration (frame 10-25 → 10-24).}}

*{{buff|Each hit of down aerial lasts one frame longer (frame 9, 12, 15, 18, 21, 24, 27: 18 frames total → frame 9-10, 12-13, 15-16, 18-19, 21-22, 24-25, 27-28: 19 frames total). Down aerial also has less ending lag (FAF 48 → 38) and auto-cancels earlier (frame 44 → 34) now doing so in a short hop.}}

*{{nerf|The final hit of down aerial deals less damage (5% → 3%) and knockback (50 (base), 140 (scaling) → 70/105), resulting in the move dealing 2% less damage if all hits connect (17% → 15%) and hindering its KO potential.}}

*{{buff|[[Forward throw]] deals more damage (12% → 14%) and more knockback (70 (base). 80 (scaling) → 80/75).}}

*{{buff|[[Back throw]] has much higher knockback scaling (65 → 94) making it among the strongest throws in the game.}}

*{{nerf|Back throw deals slightly less damage (10% → 9% (throw), 16% → 15% (total)).}}

*{{buff|[[Up throw]] has less base knockback (70 → 60). When combined with the changes to the game's mechanics, this makes up throw a significantly better option to follow-up into moves, and can even be used to [[chaingrab]] fast-fallers.}}

*{{buff|Down throw has less ending lag (FAF 42 → 36).}}

*{{nerf|[[Down throw]] sends opponents at a higher angle (20° → 32°) and has altered knockback (0 (base), 80 (set), 100 (scaling) → 50/80/40) now putting every character into [[tumble]]. This removes Dedede's ability to chaingrab with it, making it act like how it does on lightweight characters in ''Brawl''. As a result, it is a significantly inferior throw by comparison; no longer nullifying certain characters.}}

*{{buff|[[Jet Hammer]] applies a momentum boost on swinging based on the level of charge. King Dedede also gains light armor while charging, and the move has drastically less start-up (frame 29 → 9) and ending lag (FAF 77 → 57) when uncharged. It also now semi-spikes (361° → 35°) which along with its altered (albeit overall decreased) knockback (uncharged: 20 (base), 100 (scaling) → 40/80, fully charged: 30/80 → 40/75) improves its edgeguarding potential. Aerial Jet Hammer also deals more damage (uncharged: 10% → 11%, fully charged: 28%/16% → 30%) and fully charged Jet Hammer now deals consistent damage (30%/20% → 30%) and it has a new (albeit extremely weak) late hit signinificantly lengthening its duration (frames 9-11 → 9-33).}}

*{{change|Dedede's spot dodge animation was smoothed out.}}

*{{buff|Dedede's dash attack hitboxes adjusted for better coverage.}}

*{{buff|Dedede's up tilt belly hitboxes adjusted for better coverage.}}

*{{buff|Dedede's forward smash has an added large ground bounce hitbox that only affects grounded opponents and is non-clankable.}}

*{{buff|Dedede's Neutral air weak hitbox match the size of the strong hitboxes for better coverage.}}

*{{buff|Dedede's Neutral air IASA fixed to occur slightly before the animation ends.}}

*{{buff|Dedede's Forward air IASA fixed to occur slightly before the animation ends.}}

*{{buff|Dash attack has medium armor which lasts through the strong hit.}}

*{{buff|Up tilt's endlag is slightly faster.}}

*{{buff|Down aerial has smaller gaps between each hit.}}

*{{buff|Forward throw's damage has been increased slightly, knockback decreased slightly to compensate.}}

*{{buff|Down throw can be interrupted earlier.}}

*{{nerf|Turn grab range reduced slightly, and has a bit more startup to match other Turn Grabs.}}

*{{change|Neutral aerial's 1st hit angle is slightly higher.}}

*{{buff|Forward smash's meteor hitbox now only hits grounded targets (Aerial-only Spike hitbox on hammer head now has proper priority).}}

*{{change|Forward air's hitboxes were cleaned up and polished to match the animation better.}}

===Most historically significant players===

 

*{{Sm|Dumshiny|USA}} - The best King Dedede player in the world. Ranked 6th on the [[SoCal Power Rankings|SoCal ''Project M'' Power Rankings]] and 42nd on [[PMRank 2019]], being the highest ranking Dedede player on the latter.

*{{Sm|Ripple|USA}} - Formerly the best Dedede player in the world, with his 29th ranking on the [[2016 PMRank]] being the highest a Dedede player ever ranked on PMRank. He was also the only other Dedede player besides Dumshiny to be ranked the [[2019 PMRank]], ranking at 45th. Also an honorable mention on [[PMRank 2023]].

|colspan=12|[[File:King Dedede Palette (PM).png|frame|center|King Dedede's alternate costumes in PM]]

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