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|<span style="font-size:125%">'''NOTE:'''</span> '''Suggestions are ''closed'''''.<br>You may continue to vote on open suggestions, but no new ones are allowed.
|<span style="font-size:125%">'''NOTE:'''</span> '''Suggestions are ''closed'''''.<br>You may continue to vote on open suggestions, but no new ones are allowed.
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{{notice|Smash Arena is now on our Discord. Please take your suggestions [https://discord.gg/XbUYjdt there].}}


This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.
This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.
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===Posting suggestions===
===Posting suggestions===
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
**Outside very specific circumstances, no fights are allowed between combatants that only appear in a game (or a batch of downloadable content) that has yet to be released.
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
*[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred '''100 or more rounds ago'''. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone.
*[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred '''100 or more rounds ago'''. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone.
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*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page.
*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page.
*You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
*You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
**If your suggestion is removed because it's invalid or because your week isn't up, it doesn't count as your suggestion for that week. That said, users who constantly post invalid or rapid-fire suggestions may be suspended from suggesting for a few weeks, and may risk [[SW:PROB|probation]].
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine, just don't alter the combatants.
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine, just don't alter the combatants.


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When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.
When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.


The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue attempts to balance out fights so that specific participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.
The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue is designed to attempt to balance out fights so that participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.


The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.
The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.
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=Show Your Support=
=Show Your Support=
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[[Template:SA Box|<code><nowiki>{{SA Box}}</nowiki></code>]] - Smash Arena userbox; originally by [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa 08]], modified by [[User:Toomai|Toomai]]. If you wish, place it on your user page. It will tell you the new fights as they happen.


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=Suggestions=
=Suggestions=


==[[Rosalina]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==
==[[Dr. Mario]] vs [[Young Link]] vs [[Pichu]] vs [[Roy]] vs [[Mewtwo]]==
 
The forgotten Melee fighters who didn't return for Brawl. Which one will come back up from the shadows? [[User:Harro|Harro]] ([[User talk:Harro|talk]]) 08:00, 19 December 2013 (EST)
Two of the newest characters from the ''Mario'' universe makes it into ''SSB4''. Both have chargeable projectiles which stop dead upon hit. Who will rule 21st century ''Mario''? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:00, 9 December 2017 (EST)


===Support===
===Support===
I think it has an interesting idea behind it. It has my vote! [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 15:41, 22 March 2018 (EDT)
Sounds like fun! Let's try it! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:33, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
I agree with Crazy Rhino. It's interesting. Why not. Blueflame105
Kind of an obvious one. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)


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===Comments===


==[[Bowser]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==
==[[Planet Zebes]] vs [[Brinstar]] vs [[Norfair]]==
It's the battle of the Koopas! The Koopa King and the Koopa Prince are a royal duo. Who will rule this Koopa brawl between two ''Mario'' universe enemies? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:49, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
Three Metroid stages with hazardous liquid rising and falling during battle. [[Special:Contributions/192.197.128.18|192.197.128.18]] 15:26, 3 December 2013 (EST)


===Support===
===Support===
It would be en epic koopa battle. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  19:59, 9 May 2018 (EDT)
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="darkorange">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Arceus 16:04, 3 December 2013 (EST)
 
#Sure. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 16:49, 3 December 2013 (EST)
Sure, why not? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#[[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 16:57, 3 December 2013 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 20:28, 3 December 2013 (EST)
#Yes. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 20:29, 3 December 2013 (EST)
#Definitely. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 08:12, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#Yes please. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:green">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]] 16:51, 5 December 2013 (EST)


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I don't know. This seems kind of obvious. I don't think they're different enough. You're entitled to your opinion though. Blueflame105


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===Comments===


==[[Villager]] vs. [[Rosalina]]==
==[[Balanced Brawl]] v.s. [[Brawl+]]==
Since we already did Brawl- v.s. P:M, the two most popular mods, how about we go a bit more obscure.


Both characters are fun and have a special move that can negate most projectiles (Pocket and Gravitational Pull, respectively) and are both fairly new. Both are newcomers. Who would win? What do you think? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 16:02, 9 May 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105 3:01, March 9 2018 (American Central Time)
Both of these games try to balance things out; one makes the physics faster so every character has viable combos, and the other keeps the game pretty much the same outside of a few character changes to equalize the playing field. Will the results add up for Brawl+, or will the balance of votes be skewed towards Balanced Brawl? --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 20:35, 3 December 2013 (EST)


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A great battle for me so, let's give that a try! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 12:15, 10 May 2018 (EDT)
#It's supposed to be a battle between two mods that aren't that popular. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:green">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]] 16:51, 5 December 2013 (EST)
 
#I want this fight![[Special:Contributions/74.212.55.248|74.212.55.248]] 07:52, 16 December 2013 (EST)
This is a great idea. Has my support. YoshisaurusThe9th


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===Oppose===
I don't really get the connection. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#As I said earlier, no hacks should even be referenced in the Smashwiki, so I'm saying no to this one. [[User:Multus Valde|Multus Valde]] ([[User talk:Multus Valde|talk]]) 03:41, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#You cut away the fallacious "casuals are retarded and don't know any Brawl hacking/competitive smash, so no one here will get it", and I still feel these mods are too unpopular and old to be used. Unlike Minus and PM, probably over 95% of the Wiki haven't even touched these mods (hell, I never played Plus myself), nor are interested in doing so. So this matchup will draw little interest, and hardly anyone would actually be able to give the matchup a legitimate vote. Nice idea, just no real interest in it to make it worthwhile. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:35, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#I find these mods too unpopular and obscure to have a fight. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 12:06, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="darkorange">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The RBY 16:21, 4 December 2013 (EST)


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===Comments===


==[[Koopalings|Wendy]] vs. [[Lucina]]==
==[[Super Smash Bros.]] vs. [[Melee]] vs. [[Brawl]]==


The only unlockable females in the series. One fights to repair the future, the other fights to take over the world. One is driven and kind, the other is bratty and vicious. Which one reigns supreme? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
The three games in the series. Which one is most worthy of the title of "Best Smash game" until SSB4 is released? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Multus Valde|Multus Valde]] ([[User talk:Multus Valde|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Multus Valde|contribs]]) 04:08, 4 December 2013 (EST)</small>


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===Support===
A nice matchup in my favor. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#I would want to see that![[Special:Contributions/208.54.90.243|208.54.90.243]] 15:46, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#While we already have a Melee vs. Brawl match with a really old generation of SmashWiki users, let's see what the new generation has to say with all three Smash games! [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="darkorange">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Pokéball 16:16, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#[[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 16:50, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/192.197.128.170|192.197.128.170]] 17:17, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#Yep. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 23:44, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 10:23, 5 December 2013 (EST)
#I was thinking about suggesting this. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:green">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]] 16:51, 5 December 2013 (EST)
#[[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 18:30, 5 December 2013 (EST)
#awesome! great idea! it's such an obivious idea it's suprising nobody has thought of it before! [[User:Harro|Harro]] ([[User talk:Harro|talk]]) 22:27, 5 December 2013 (EST)
 
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Just no. Please no. Also, Wendy isn't unlockable in for Wii U, and neither is Lucina, so that's driven entirely from the 3DS version, right? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:03, 8 June 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105


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===Comments===


==[[Lakitu & Spinies]] vs. [[Hammer Bro.]]==
== [[Pikaman]] vs. [[Gigapuff]] ==


Two [[Assist Trophies]] from the ''Mario'' series. One throws Spinies, the other throws hammers. Which one is your favorite? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
Both of these unshapely Pokemon abominations are the result of glitching around with Brawl, and both are infamous among the Smash community, competitive and casual players alike. Which of these has science gone too far for; the man-sized electric rodent with an unnerving anatomy, or the stage-sized balloon that stretches beyond the stage's camera and boundaries? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:52, 4 December 2013 (EST)


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It's a cool idea, so I'll support this. I would definitely vote for Hammer Bro. though. I hate going up against Lakitu. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:04, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
#Interesting. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 12:06, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#It's creative. [[Special:Contributions/192.197.128.18|192.197.128.18]] 15:31, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#The battle of the fat people. :P [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="darkorange">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Pokéball 16:16, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#For science. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 23:44, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 10:23, 5 December 2013 (EST)
#Nice idea. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:green">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]] 16:51, 5 December 2013 (EST)
#[[User:MetaMewtwoSoul|<span style="color:#009966">MetaMew</span>]]'''[[User talk:MetaMewtwoSoul|<span style="color:teal">twoSoul</span>]]'''[[File:600px-Yveltal.png|x20px]] 12:50, 8 December 2013 (EST)
#This is interesting[[Special:Contributions/74.212.55.248|74.212.55.248]] 07:54, 16 December 2013 (EST)


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Rematches are uninteresting in general, especially now that we're going to have 5 ''Smash'' games and now, there are more ''Mario'' based assists. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
 
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Not saying it couldn't happen as it was more than 100 matches ago, but discovered this same matchup with their Brawl incarnations in the archives. While I do like this matchup and fully support it, it does say you aren't likely to get a repeat unless people really want a different result or it was a tie. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 19:06, 6 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
==[[Mario Circuit (SSB4)]] vs. [[Rainbow Road]]==


3, 2, 1... GO! Two stages from ''{{iw|mariowiki|Mario Kart|series}}'' battle it out in a race to the finish. One is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8}}'' and ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8 Deluxe}}'', the other is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 7}}''. Who will take the checkered flag in this match? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 01:10, 17 June 2018 (EDT)
==[[Screw Attack]] vs. [[Franklin Badge]]==
The two brooche items in Brawl. One is strictly offensive, the other is strictly defensive. Ooze bedder? [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 15:55, 4 December 2013 (EST)


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Great Idea in my opinion.
#I was kind of thinking about suggesting this. [[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 16:50, 4 December 2013 (EST)
[[User: CaptainDabsalot|CaptainDabsalot]] Or [[User Talk: CaptainDabsalot|The SavageCow]] 6/22/18 11:04 CST
#Interesting [[Special:Contributions/192.197.128.170|192.197.128.170]] 17:17, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="darkorange">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Formerly ..... 18:36, 4 December 2013 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 10:23, 5 December 2013 (EST)
#[[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 11:07, 5 December 2013 (EST)
#You can wear them. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:green">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]] 16:51, 5 December 2013 (EST)


[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
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==[[Daisy]] vs. [[Inkling]] vs. [[Ridley]]==
==[[Fox]] vs. [[Falco]] vs. [[Wolf]]==


The first three newcomers announced for SSBU. Which noob gets the most hype? ...Wait a second... [[Forum:Smash_Arena/Archive_40#Villager_vs._Wii_Fit_Trainer_vs._Mega_Man|hasn't something like this been done before?]] [[User:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">infernape]][[User talk:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">612</span>]]</span> 20:17, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
Three playable Star Fox characters go head to head, each with different strengths and weaknesses in specific moves compared to others i.e. blaster, reflector and final smash comparison and they each have a particular smash attack with the strongest KO potential. Who dominates the field. [[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 18:13, 4 December 2013 (EST)


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I mean... yeah. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 20:42, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
#In my early days on this wiki we had a Fox vs. Falco and a Fox vs. Wolf match. I would love to see the funny quotes of the Star Fox characters when we vote on this three-way match. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="darkorange">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Formerly ..... 18:36, 4 December 2013 (EST)
 
#[[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 10:23, 5 December 2013 (EST)
ABSOLUTELY! Ultimate looks really good. Counting down the days till December 9th..... [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:30, 21 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
#K. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 11:07, 5 December 2013 (EST)
 
#Surprised this hasn't been done yet. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:green">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]] 16:51, 5 December 2013 (EST)
The only time such matchup is valid. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/192.197.128.18|192.197.128.18]] 11:48, 9 December 2013 (EST)
 
Love it! That one is going to be awesome! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 13:07, 29 July 2018 (EDT)


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"''all with similar movesets''"


Wolf's moveset is [[User:Omega Tyrant/Clone charts#Fox and Wolf|not at all similar to any significant degree]]. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 18:26, 4 December 2013 (EST)


==[[Kirby (SSB4)|Kirby]] Vs. [[Jigglypuff (SSB4)| Jigglypuff]]==
==[[Saki]] vs. [[Ray MK III]]==
 
Two assist trophies that fly around the stage and shoot stuff at you. Who will be the victor? <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:green">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]] 16:51, 5 December 2013 (EST)
Pink. Puffy. Powerful. Wait, which one am I talking about? It's pink puffball on pink puffball in this puffball brawl. Both are floaty, pink, and overall competitively useless! Both of their up specials can hinder their recoveries, but can jump a lot (maybe too much) so it's all good. It's the ULTIMATE BATTLE! What's that? You say it's not? Well then, [[Kirby]] or [[Jigglypuff]]. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:53, 22 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105


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#I was also thinking of suggesting this. They both have two attacks, one that fires shots, the other either a sword attack or missile blasts. [[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 18:06, 5 December 2013 (EST)
#Yeah. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 18:30, 5 December 2013 (EST)
#Both characters are rather unfamiliar to me but have high tech awesome guns to make up for it. I guess I can go for it. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The 90's 18:39, 5 December 2013 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/192.197.128.18|192.197.128.18]] 11:48, 9 December 2013 (EST)


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This match was already done in a lopsided result. Also I noticed that much of your contributions have been Smash Arena related and we're currently on a Red wiki status and spending to much time in the Smash Arena without contributing to the mainspace can result in an IP block (or probation if you're a registered user). [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  18:52, 23 July 2018 (EDT)


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I apologize. I was not aware of this, and will refrain from doing Smash Arena things, at least until wiki status lowers. I have been attempting tobe more helpful on the wiki, but overall, I'm not good at it. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:51, 25 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
==[[Cloud Strife]] Vs. [[Solid Snake]]==
While these two super soldiers are largely considered Playstation classics, they've found there way into Nintendo's big crossover. Both may take some stuff through cloning (Cloud has Zack's memories and abilities, Snake is a literal clone of Big Boss) but who comes out on top? Btw, they're both relatively mature for Nintendo titles --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 21:19, 11 August 2018 (EDT)
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I nearly removed this suggestion because I thought it involved an ''Ultimate'' character, then I found out Cloud was in ''SSB4''. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:42, 11 August 2018 (EDT)
They are great characters in both ''Smash 4'' and ''Ultimate'' so, let's do it! By the way, Cloud's debut game is ''Final Fantasy VII'', while ''Metal Gear Solid'' is Snake's first game. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 15:23, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
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==[[Battlefield]] Vs. [[Big Battlefield]]==
Pretty simple idea. Battlefield vs its big bro. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 12:05, 28 December 2018 (EST)


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==[[Ray Gun]] vs [[Super Scope]]==
Not a bad idea. <span style="color:lightblue">Everone123</span> ([[User:Everone123|userpage]] • [[User talk:Everone123|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Everone123|contribs]]) 22:15, 7 January 2019 (EST)
Two shooting weapons that fire strictly horizontally. While the ray gun fires one quick shot with enough hitstun and knockback to drag opponents offscreen, the super scope can fire multiple quick but weak streams or it can fire a single more powerful charged shots. [[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 23:07, 7 December 2013 (EST)
 
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No contest. Big Battlefield wins (Bigger means better). Try coming up with something else. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:52, 3 January 2019 (EST)
 
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== [[Luigi's Mansion]] vs. [[Dracula's Castle]] ==
 
Two locations, one being a haunted mansion in the middle of a spooky forest that is home to a green-clad  plumber, the other being a giant castle on the outskirts of Transylvania that is home to an evil vampire, both places equally spooky. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:56, 3 January 2019 (EST)
 
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I think another fun connection is Dracula's Castle used to replace Luigi's Mansion in PM. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 18:32, 19 January 2019 (EST)
 
This is my kind of battle! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 18:35, 19 January 2019 (EST)
 
Yeah both places can be considered scary places. It would make a perfect battle. [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:Corrin Fan|Corrin Fan]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 14:25, 21 January 2019 (EST)
 
Seems like a fun idea. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
 
Giving this a vote since the current arena seriously needs to end already. Also the PM trivia is neat.<span style="font-family: Algerian"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> Supα Toαd 64,</span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:aqua;"> The Best </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 09:15, August 31, 2019 (EDT)
 
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==[[Bayonetta]] vs. [[Joker]]==
 
Both are black clad, gun wielding, Sega owned (well, kinda for Joker), DLC fighters. But which one will come out on top? [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)


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* Bayonetta and Joker are extremely similar, this battle could make a difference. [[File:Derekblue1SigHead1.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">'''Derekblue1'''</span>]] [[User talk:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Derekblue1SigHead2.png|20px|link=]] 09:54, April 15, 2020 (EDT)
#[[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 08:49, 8 December 2013 (EST)
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Team Fortress 2 16:56, 8 December 2013 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/192.197.128.18|192.197.128.18]] 11:48, 9 December 2013 (EST)
#Good. Idea.[[Special:Contributions/74.212.55.248|74.212.55.248]] 17:32, 17 December 2013 (EST)


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#I don't think this would be a good one. Two guns that don't have much use, and aren't really worth using. [[Special:Contributions/107.211.34.20|107.211.34.20]] 13:12, 9 December 2013 (EST)


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I was thinking if you could add Cracker Launcher? Your discretion [[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 00:04, 8 December 2013 (EST)
:Cracker Launcher doesn't fire only horizontally like these two items do; it can be aimed vertically and diagonally as well. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 08:49, 8 December 2013 (EST)
::I thought of if cracker launcher was added, it would be a matchup of non specific universe oriented projectile shooters. [[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 11:16, 8 December 2013 (EST)


==[[Mario]] vs. [[Donkey Kong]] vs. [[Pacman]]==
==[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]] Roster Match==
 
Remember the Super Smash Bros. character voting? Well, I want to see a full on Melee character voting. One thing, though; no voting because they are higher on the tier list, please. [[User:Requiem of Ice|Requiem of Ice]] ([[User talk:Requiem of Ice|talk]]) 15:13, 8 December 2013 (EST)
All three are iconic fighters who were huge hits in the early 1980s, shoot projectiles, and are great at rescuing people. But things have been bubbling around Peach since Wii U, and there is only one way to settle things. Which will get the princess? [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 22:17, April 13, 2020


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#It would be kind of interesting --[[User:Dinoboy411|Dinoboy411]] ([[User talk:Dinoboy411|talk]]) 08:57, 14 December 2013 (EST)


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#With 26 options per one poll, things could get out of hand because characters would generally only get a few votes each, or people would vote for a few candidates and leave the rest completely hanging. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 15:31, 8 December 2013 (EST)
#I like the idea of the fight but I don't think we can fit 26 characters in one round. [[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 15:38, 8 December 2013 (EST)
#Hasn't Toomai already explained many times why the Smash 64 roster match won't be duplicated with the future games? How many times does he have to reject this idea for people to stop suggesting it? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 16:01, 8 December 2013 (EST)
#Clusters? That isn't going to happen anytime soon. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Team Fortress 2 16:56, 8 December 2013 (EST)
#With a game as competitive as melee, there really is no way to keep the tier list out of it. The match would just turn into professionals vs casuals with the professionals focusing on the top tier and the casuals focusing on Mewtwo and Roy. [[Special:Contributions/71.189.12.107|71.189.12.107]] 22:18, 12 December 2013 (EST)


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Instead of having all 26 characters on a single poll, how about we split the polls up into their respective tier divisions? i.e. S Tier has one poll, A Tier has one poll, B Tier has one poll, and F Tier has one poll. This way everyone can have four votes and there's a lesser chance of leaving some characters with zero votes. Because a person's favorite characters could be spread out over the list, this idea better represents what the community thinks about who their favorites are. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 15:31, 8 December 2013 (EST)
:That's actually a really good idea. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 15:34, 8 December 2013 (EST)
::Or how about do a matchup with just melee newcomers. This would narrow down the fight. Sorry I used multiple edits, things just pop up into my head after I click save. [[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 15:41, 8 December 2013 (EST)
:::I said that the tier list isn't allowed; but how about this:
:::Characters from their respective universes go against each other, and the top ranked '''from each universe''' go against each other. Now, you may ask, "Wait, what about the single representatives?" Well, just put them all together. What about this suggestion? [[User:Requiem of Ice|Requiem of Ice]] ([[User talk:Requiem of Ice|talk]]) 16:30, 8 December 2013 (EST)
::::Thats a  good idea for the fight instead of all 26 characters.--[[User:Pichu+Pichu|Pichu+Pichu]] ([[User talk:Pichu+Pichu|talk]]) 19:44, 8 December 2013 (EST)


==[[Pikachu]] vs. [[Lucas]]==
It worked for Smash 64 because there are 12 characters and it's to celebrate the 64th round. [[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 15:35, 8 December 2013 (EST)
I say just put in the fighters that didn't return for Brawl e.g Mewtoo, Dr. Mario, Roy, Pichu, Young Link. [[User:Harro|Harro]] ([[User talk:Harro|talk]]) 18:02, 8 December 2013 (EST)


Both have the power of Thor. [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 14:38, May 09, 2020
Okay, how about my secondary idea? '''Link vs Young Link?''' [[User:Requiem of Ice|Requiem of Ice]] ([[User talk:Requiem of Ice|talk]]) 19:18, 8 December 2013 (EST)
:You're only allowed to suggest one fight a week. [[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 20:36, 8 December 2013 (EST)
::Yeah, I guess. It's just a secondary idea that I'm going to submit next week (and it's a reminder, too). [[User:Requiem of Ice|Requiem of Ice]] ([[User talk:Requiem of Ice|talk]]) 23:29, 8 December 2013 (EST)
:::The problem is since we recently had Link vs. Young Link vs. Toon Link, I don't think your suggestion might pass since it technically contained Link and Young Link. [[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 00:36, 9 December 2013 (EST)


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==Pokemon Trainer Vs Wii Fit Trainer ==
They may not have to much in common but they are trainers and we still havent had much Wii Fit in the Smash Arena. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Dinoboy411|Dinoboy411]] ([[User talk:Dinoboy411|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Dinoboy411|contribs]]) 13:50, 14 December 2013‎ (GMT)</small>
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#[[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 09:03, 14 December 2013 (EST)
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#Smash 4 characters should not be in the Smash Arena until Smash 4 comes out, as the relevance of a match can change significantly by then, and no one will be able to give a legitimate vote as none of us have played the Smash 4 characters. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:43, 14 December 2013 (EST)
#Don't have much in common. But I'll rather wait until Smash 4 comes out then do the match if possible then to do this match now. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Pokéball 11:03, 14 December 2013 (EST)
#dumb idea[[Special:Contributions/74.212.55.248|74.212.55.248]] 17:30, 17 December 2013 (EST)


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# Its a great idea, but should be done when SSB4 is released. [[User:Harro|Harro]] ([[User talk:Harro|talk]]) 07:48, 19 December 2013 (EST)
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*Quick heads up, the wiki's Smash Arena has been discontinued in favor of the Discord server's. The suggestions should go there instead. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:15, May 9, 2020 (EDT)

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