Talk:Yuri Kozukata

Different endings

This sentence "In the good ending, she lifts a curse from the main antagonist of the story, Ouse Kurosawa, and ends up on a warm beach with Hisoka Kurosawa, while in the bad ending, she jumps off a cliff along with Ouse" is one I believe shouldn't be in Yuri's Origin. I have already given multiple reasons as to why it should be removed: It does not explain anything about Yuri's personality, it's merely just an unnecessary detail partily because her desicions are based on the player's actions meaning her "death" isn't pure canon. While she may die in the bad end, she only chooses that path because the player failed to achieve a certain goal. This is the same for every bad ending in a video game with multiple endings such as Fatal Frame. Because she cannot control her actions to prevent a bad end, it cannot be stated that she died because she was x and y. In other words, it's the player that chooses the endings, not Yuri herself. Stating what Yuri does because of a player's certain action shouldn't really go under "Origin" in the first place as that's not an origin. An "Origin" sections should state who the character is, why thyey do what they do, and how are they important.

This leads to my second reason that this statement bears no relevance to Smash Bros. at all. We already have the who, what, why, and how, there's nothing else that needs to be added. All we really need is that Yuri is a 19 year old who who gained the ability to sense ghosts and learned how to exorcise them with her camera. Her camera is really the most important thing here as the context as to why it works the way it does in Ultimate needs to be explained. We already have that. We don't need to include the different endings in Black Water do we? I don't see how that bears any relevance at all. Take a look at every other Assist's Origin. All of them explain some detail about what the character does in their own game and how many elements of said game are incorporated into Smash Bros. Some are short and straight to the point like Ashley and Chain Chomp. Others explain the character's development throughout the series like Black Knight and Alucard, although Alucard's origin is WAY TOO detailed compared to others. A good example of an Origin section is Mother Brain. It explains what she is, what she does, and how her move set is incorporated into Smash Bros. It's short, straight to the point, and it's what people want to read. Nobody really wants to learn a history lesson about how Alucard had to deal with his father. We're a Smash Bros. wiki, not a crossover wiki, we don't need to explain everything about a character's origin, just the necessary parts that made it into Smash Bros. Therefore, stating a character's "possible death" that has nothing to do with Smash Bros. isn't necessary. Besides, that's the opposite of an Origin. We're not here to tell the whole story about why a character is this way, just a brief summary. AceFedora (talk) 03:38, 23 January 2019 (EST)

I agree with this. The sentence is irrelevant to Smash and should be removed. Does the main antagonist appear at all or have any reference in Smash? No. Do the beach or the cliff? No. It doesn't belong, and the fact that SmashWiki is not spoiler-safe is not a factor.

As a side note, the edits on the page by three parties (AceFedora, IP 99.203.11.237, and IP 184.181.102.188) violate SW:1RV. Just make sure to bring it to the talk page after the first revert, next time. Dr. HyperCake (talk) 04:05, 23 January 2019 (EST)