Smasher talk:Charliedaking

Win on ZeRo

Okay actually how to count this? I fully agree that this is not the same as if he had won in, say, a PGR-ranked tour, or against his Diddy. But weeklies in themselves are tournaments, and ZeRo's losses at them have counted in the past (ANTi @ WNF), and his secondaries are still in front of ZeRo, and his losses with them have counted in the past (ANTi @ Gren Saga, Tsu/Fatality at their tournaments). His Lucina especially is a legitimate secondary with wins on Ally and all that. Personally I think any tournament set is worth noting the same as the others. If we're to say otherwise we have to draw a concise line on what is notable, which we have not done. Due to this I'd like to have his win listed as of now, but how do we go about this in the future? Pespeon (talk) 01:20, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

A case-by-case basis can be made. ZeRo hasn't even used Lucina in tournament ever since SNS3, which was over a month ago. ZeRo also used Diddy in all of those sets you mentioned along with his secondaries. He literally said on Twitter that he was going to practice his secondaries this tournament. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 01:25, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

No I understand the nature of his secondaries and that Charlie didn't defeat "optimal ZeRo," per se. But as far as I know, our only distinction this far forth are tournament wins against ZeRo, which he achieved. To clarify: I don't believe this set counts the same as most others vs. ZeRo, but I also don't believe we have the precedent set to make the distinction. Not sure that case-by-case is applicable with something as subjective as this. Pespeon (talk) 01:28, 11 July 2017 (EDT)