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The [[Smash Back Room]] '''[[tier list]]''' has changed many times since its inception. Previous versions of the list are as follows. In later tier lists, characters are broadly ranked by their tier, and further ranked by the order in which characters are listed within the tier list. For instance, [[Falco (SSBM)|Falco]] is ranked above [[Samus (SSBM)|Samus]] in the [[#Fourth tier list (July 1, 2003)|fourth ''Melee'' tier list]]. Earlier tier lists use numerical rankings, and characters with the same numerical value are listed alphabetically.
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==''[[Super Smash Bros.]]''==
*[[List of SSB tier lists (NTSC)|The list of ''Super Smash Bros.'' NTSC tier lists]]
For the purposes of low tier tournaments, those characters in tiers B and C are classed as "low tier" characters.
*[[List of SSBM tier lists (NTSC)|The list of ''Melee'' NTSC tier lists]]
*[[List of SSBB tier lists (NTSC)|The list of ''Brawl'' NTSC tier lists]]


===First Tier List===
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The first list was created by the ''Super Smash Bros.'' community on GameFAQs, unlike the tiers lists of other games, which were created on [[Smashboards]] by the [[Smash Back Room]].
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{| border="0" style="text-align: center;"
[[Category:Tier lists]]
! style="width: 10em;" | S
! style="width: 10em;" | A
! style="width: 10em;" | B
! style="width: 10em;" | C
|-
| Pikachu
| Fox
| Mario
| Luigi
|-
| Kirby
| Captain Falcon
| Yoshi
| Samus
|-
| Ness
| Jigglypuff
| Donkey Kong
| Link
|}
 
===Second Tier List===
The second smash 64 tier list was created by the n64 community on Smashboards unlike the first one which was created by members of Gamefaqs.
{| border="0" style="text-align: center;"
! style="width: 10em;" | S
! style="width: 10em;" | A
! style="width: 10em;" | B
! style="width: 10em;" | C
|-
| Pikachu
| Kirby
| Yoshi
| Luigi
|-
| Fox
| Captain Falcon
| Donkey Kong
| Link
|-
|
| Mario
| Jigglypuff
| Samus
|-
|
|
| Ness
|
|}
 
==Melee==
===First tier list (October 8, 2002)===
* 4.9: [[Sheik (SSBM)|Sheik]]
* 4.8: [[Falco (SSBM)|Falco]], [[Fox (SSBM)|Fox]]
* 4.4: [[Marth (SSBM)|Marth]]
* 4.1: [[Mario (SSBM)|Mario]]
* 4.0: [[Zelda (SSBM)|Zelda]], [[Samus (SSBM)|Samus]], [[Luigi (SSBM)|Luigi]]
* 3.9: [[Peach (SSBM)|Peach]]
* 3.8: [[Dr. Mario (SSBM)|Dr. Mario]]
* 3.5: [[Ice Climbers (SSBM)|Ice Climbers]], [[Ganondorf (SSBM)|Ganondorf]]
* 3.4: [[Pikachu (SSBM)|Pikachu]], [[Link (SSBM)|Link]]
* 3.2: [[Captain Falcon (SSBM)|Captain Falcon]], [[Young Link (SSBM)|Young Link]]
* 3.1: [[Jigglypuff (SSBM)|Jigglypuff]], [[Ness (SSBM)|Ness]]
* 2.9: [[Yoshi (SSBM)|Yoshi]], [[Donkey Kong (SSBM)|Donkey Kong]]
* 2.8: [[Roy (SSBM)|Roy]]
* 2.1: [[Kirby (SSBM)|Kirby]]
* 1.8: [[Mr. Game & Watch (SSBM)|Mr. Game & Watch]]
* 1.6: [[Pichu (SSBM)|Pichu]], [[Bowser (SSBM)|Bowser]]
* 1.3: [[Mewtwo (SSBM)|Mewtwo]]
 
Though this was the first tier list, [[Smash World Forums]] was rife with discussion about tiers long before the Melee Back Room released its "MBR Tier Averages."  The term "F/F/S" (short for "Falco, Fox and Sheik") was popular as a quick reference to Melee's top tier.  Members on Smashboards, perhaps in backlash against novice sentiment towards Roy and Link, generally disdained those characters, and generally favored the game's fastest characters.
 
Members on Smashboards largely contested this tier list's placement of Mewtwo, which they felt to be too low.  Many Smashboarders considered Mewtwo a low or even middle tier character and were bothered that it, despite its great [[recovery]] and powerful [[throw]]s, was placed at the bottom of bottom tier, where most people believed Bowser belonged.
 
===Second tier list (December 19, 2002)===
For the second tier list, the Melee Back Room not only averaged the votes for every character to determine a tier list, but also calculated the mode of characters' placements.
<div style="float: left; clear: both;">
====Mean====
* 2.2: Sheik
* 2.3: Fox
* 3.9: Falco
* 4.4: Peach
* 4.7: Marth
* 8.5: Mario
* 8.8: Dr. Mario
* 9.6: Samus
* 10.0: Luigi
* 11.0: Ganondorf and Jigglypuff
* 13.0: Captain Falcon and Ice Climbers
* 15.0: Zelda, Ness and Link
* 16.0: Pikachu
* 17.0: Yoshi and Young Link
* 20.0: Roy and Donkey Kong
* 21.0: Mr. Game and Watch, Kirby and Bowser
* 23.0: Mewtwo
* 24.0: Pichu
</div><div style="float: left; margin-left: 3em">
====Mode====
* 1: Sheik
* 2: Fox
* 3: Falco
* 4: Peach
* 5: Marth, Zelda
* 6: Samus
* 7: Ganondorf
* 9: Dr. Mario
* 10: Jigglypuff, Mario
* 11: C.Falcon
* 12: Luigi
* 13: Ice Climbers
* 14: Link
* 15: Young Link
* 16: Ness
* 18: Yoshi
* 20: Pikachu
* 22: Bowser
* 23: Donkey Kong, Roy
* 24: Kirby, Mewtwo
* 25: Pichu
* 26: Mr. Game and Watch
</div>
<br style="clear: both;" />
 
===Third tier list (June 23, 2003)===
<div style="width: 100%;"><div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Top Tier'''
* Sheik
* Fox
* Falco
* Marth
* Peach</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Upper Tier'''
* Mario
* Dr. Mario
* Luigi
* Samus
* Jigglypuff
* Captain Falcon
* Ganondorf</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Middle Tier'''
* Ice Climbers
* Yoshi
* Ness
* Pikachu
* Roy
* Link
* Young Link
* Zelda
* Donkey Kong</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Bottom Tier'''
* Mr. Game & Watch
* Kirby
* Mewtwo
* Pichu
* Bowser</div>
<br style="clear: both;" />
This tier list was released soon after [[Ken Hoang]] won [[Tournament Go|Tournament Go 4]].  Before Ken, Marth strategy largely encompassed [[rolling]] and [[C-stick]] [[smash attack|smashing]] symptomatic of low-level play today, but Ken introduced to the community the uses of [[dash-dancing]], [[chain grab|chain throwing]] and [[aerial attack]]s, all techniques that largely improved Marth's [[metagame]] and moved him to top tier for years to come.
 
This is the first tier list that officially ranks characters into tiers.
 
===Fourth tier list (July 1, 2003)===
<div style="width: 100%;"><div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Top Tier'''
* Sheik
* Fox
* Marth
* Peach</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Upper Tier'''
* Falco
* Samus
* Mario
* Dr. Mario
* Jigglypuff
* Ganondorf
* Captain Falcon
* Luigi</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Middle Tier'''
* Pikachu
* Yoshi
* Ice Climbers
* Zelda
* Ness
* Link
* Young Link
* Roy</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Low Tier'''
* Donkey Kong
* Mr. Game & Watch
* Kirby</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Bottom Tier'''
* Mewtwo
* Pichu
* Bowser</div></div>
<br style="clear: both;" />
 
===Fifth tier list (September 29, 2003)===
<div style="width: 100%;"><div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Top Tier'''
* Sheik
* Marth</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Upper Tier'''
* Fox
* Peach
* Falco</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''High Tier'''
* Samus
* Captain Falcon
* Ganondorf
* Mario
* Dr. Mario
* Jigglypuff
* Luigi</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Middle Tier'''
* Yoshi
* Link
* Roy
* Pikachu
* Young Link
* Ice Climbers
* Zelda</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Low Tier'''
* Ness
* Kirby
* Donkey Kong
* Mewtwo</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Bottom Tier'''
* Mr. Game & Watch
* Pichu
* Bowser</div></div>
<br style="clear: both;" />
 
===April Fools Sixth tier list (March 31, 2004)===
<div style="width: 100%;"><div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Top Tier'''
* Sheik
* Jigglypuff</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Upper Tier'''
* Fox
* Captain Falcon
* Falco
* Link</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''High Tier'''
* Marth
* Roy
* Peach
* Luigi
* Ice Climbers</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Middle Tier'''
* Ganondorf
* Samus
* Mewtwo
* Ness
* Mario
* Dr. Mario</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Low Tier'''
* Young Link
* Kirby
* Pikachu
* Mr. Game & Watch
* Donkey Kong</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Bottom Tier'''
* Zelda
* Pichu
* Bowser</div></div>
<br style="clear: both;" />
This tier list doubled as an April Fools joke and a lesson to the community to not blindly swallow the Melee Back Room tier list as the truth.  Though most people suspected this tier list was a hoax, it set a precedent to criticizing the tier list that had not existed before.
 
To "defend" this hoax during the two tumultuous days it was the official tier list, Melee Back Room members argued that Marth was too slow to remain in the top two tiers, that Link had untapped aerial prowess, and that Jigglypuff, through speed and the [[Wall of Pain]], ruled the air to the point of domination.  Ironically, the latter prediction would come true in the post-Brawl metagame.
 
The Melee Back Room forgot to include Yoshi in this tier list; once people realized he was missing, the MBR placed him in middle tier, between Ness and Mario.
 
===Sixth tier list (April 2, 2004)===
<div style="width: 100%;"><div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Top Tier'''
* Sheik
* Fox
* Marth</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Upper Tier'''
* Falco
* Peach
* Captain Falcon
* Samus
* Jigglypuff</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''High Tier'''
* Ganondorf
* Mario
* Dr. Mario
* Luigi</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Middle Tier'''
* Link
* Pikachu
* Ice Climbers
* Roy
* Zelda
* Young Link
* Yoshi</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Low Tier'''
* Ness
* Donkey Kong
* Kirby
* Mr. Game & Watch
* Mewtwo</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Bottom Tier'''
* Bowser
* Pichu</div></div>
<br style="clear: both;" />
 
===Seventh tier list (March 19, 2005)===
<div style="width: 100%;"><div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Top Tier'''
* Sheik
* Fox
* Marth</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Upper Tier'''
* Peach
* Falco
* Captain Falcon
* Samus</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''High Tier'''
* Jigglypuff
* Dr. Mario
* Ganondorf
* Mario
* Ice Climbers</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Middle Tier'''
* Luigi
* Link
* Roy
* Donkey Kong
* Pikachu
* Zelda</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Low Tier'''
* Ness
* Young Link
* Yoshi
* Kirby
* Mr. Game & Watch
* Bowser</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Bottom Tier'''
* Mewtwo
* Pichu</div></div>
<br style="clear: both;" />
 
===Eighth tier list (July 8, 2006)===
<div style="width: 100%;"><div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Top Tier'''
* Fox
* Falco</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''High Tier'''
* Sheik
* Marth
* Peach</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Middle Tier'''
* Captain Falcon
* Ice Climbers
* Samus
* Dr. Mario
* Jigglypuff
* Mario
* Ganondorf</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Low Tier'''
* Link
* Luigi
* Donkey Kong
* Roy
* Young Link
* Pikachu</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 10em">'''Bottom Tier'''
* Yoshi
* Zelda
* Mr. Game & Watch
* Ness
* Bowser
* Kirby
* Pichu
* Mewtwo</div></div>
<br style="clear: both;" />
 
The names of these tiers were originally called God Tier, Top Tier, High Tier, Middle Tier, and Low Tier; these names were changed to the ones shown above on July 10th, two days after the tier list was released.
 
This tier list marks the first time Sheik was not in top tier, and contains the biggest bottom tier of any tier list thus far.  The balance of the tier list was a point of contention amongst many Smashers, who felt that it was too bottom-heavy and that the lower tiers should themselves be split, or the high tiers merged (particularly the top two).
 
===Ninth tier list (October 14, 2008)===
This is the '''[[tier list|current SSBM tier list]]'''. For the first time since June 2003, the Smash Back Room published each character's numerical scores.
<div style="width: 100%;"><div style="float: left; width: 19%">'''Top Tier'''
* 9.9: [[Fox McCloud (SSBM)|Fox]]
* 9.9: [[Marth (SSBM)|Marth]]
* 9.7: [[Sheik (SSBM)|Sheik]]
* 9.2: [[Falco Lombardi (SSBM)|Falco]]</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 19%">'''High Tier'''
* 8.4: [[Peach (SSBM)|Peach]]
* 8.0: [[Captain Falcon (SSBM)|Captain Falcon]]
* 8.0: [[Jigglypuff (SSBM)|Jigglypuff]]
* 7.9: [[Ice Climbers (SSBM)|Ice Climbers]]</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 19%">'''Middle Tier'''
* 6.8: [[Samus Aran (SSBM)|Samus]]
* 6.2: [[Dr. Mario (SSBM)|Dr. Mario]]
* 6.0: [[Ganondorf (SSBM)|Ganondorf]]
* 5.8: [[Luigi (SSBM)|Luigi]]
* 5.4: [[Donkey Kong (SSBM)|Donkey Kong]]
* 5.3: [[Mario (SSBM)|Mario]]</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 19%">'''Low Tier'''
* 4.7: [[Link (SSBM)|Link]]
* 4.3: [[Pikachu (SSBM)|Pikachu]]
* 4.2: [[Young Link]]
* 3.6: [[Roy]]
* 3.0: [[Zelda (SSBM)|Zelda]]
* 3.0: [[Mr. Game & Watch (SSBM)|Mr. Game & Watch]]</div>
<div style="float: left; width: 19%">'''Bottom Tier'''
* 2.5: [[Ness (SSBM)|Ness]]
* 2.5: [[Yoshi (SSBM)|Yoshi]]
* 2.2: [[Bowser (SSBM)|Bowser]]
* 1.8: [[Mewtwo]]
* 1.5: [[Kirby (SSBM)|Kirby]]
* 1.2: [[Pichu]]</div></div>
<br style="clear: both;" />
 
==Brawl==
===First Tier List (September 1, 2008)===
{| border="0" style="text-align: center;"
! style="width: 10em;" | Top Tier
! style="width: 10em;" | High Tier
! style="width: 10em;" | Middle Tier
! style="width: 10em;" | Low Tier
|-
| Meta Knight
| Marth
| Toon Link
| Lucas
|-
| Snake
| Wario
| Olimar
| Ness
|-
| King Dedede
| Lucario
| Fox
| Mario
|-
| Mr. Game and Watch
| Donkey Kong
| Zelda
| Pokemon Trainer
|-
| Falco
| Diddy Kong
| Zero Suit Samus
| Samus
|-
| R.O.B.
| Pikachu
| Bowser
| Yoshi
|-
|
| Ice Climbers
| Luigi
| Sonic
|-
|
| Kirby
| Peach
| Jigglypuff
|-
|
| Pit
| Ike
| Ganondorf
|-
|
| Wolf
| Sheik
| Link
|-
|
|
|
| Captain Falcon
|}
 
While many players wanted to have a tier list a month or 2 after Brawl's release, the SBR decided (and with good reason) to wait at least a couple of months before making the first tier list. The idea was that making a tier list too early would result in it becoming quickly outdated, forcing the SBR to make a second one. The SBR made the correct decision. Players' perception of the tier list changed dramatically between the game's release and September. The most noticeable fluctuation was Snake's placing, who was first about mid tier, then sky rocketed to the #1 spot above Metaknight. Snake was considered the best character in the game for quite a while, this opinion being backed up by tournaments where Snake took almost all the top spots (in one case, the top 5 placings were all Snake). It wasn't until around when Mew2king started dominating with Metaknight that players realized Metaknight was better.
 
===Second Tier List (January 5, 2009)===
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! SS Tier
! S Tier
! A Tier
! B Tier
! C Tier
! D Tier
! E Tier
! F Tier
! G Tier
|- style="vertical-align: top;"
|
1. [[Meta Knight (SSBB)|Meta Knight]] (15.00)<br />
|
2. [[Snake (SSBB)|Snake]] (13.91)<br />
|
3. [[Falco (SSBB)|Falco]] (13.03)<br />
4. [[King Dedede (SSBB)|King Dedede]] (12.94)<br />
5. [[Mr. Game & Watch (SSBB)|Mr. Game & Watch]] (12.50)<br />
6. [[Marth (SSBB)|Marth]] (12.09)<br />
7. [[Diddy Kong (SSBB)|Diddy Kong]] (11.94)<br />
|
8. [[Wario (SSBB)|Wario]] (11.47)<br />
9. [[R.O.B. (SSBB)|R.O.B.]] (11.38)<br />
10-11. [[Lucario (SSBB)|Lucario]] (10.94)<br />
10-11. [[Olimar (SSBB)|Olimar]] (10.94)<br />
|
12. [[Pikachu (SSBB)|Pikachu]] (10.34)<br />
13. [[Kirby (SSBB)|Kirby]] (10.16)<br />
14. [[Donkey Kong (SSBB)|Donkey Kong]] (10.06)<br />
15. [[Ice Climbers (SSBB)|Ice Climbers]] (9.59)<br />
|
16. [[Zero Suit Samus (SSBB)|Zero Suit Samus]] (8.88)<br />
17. [[Toon Link (SSBB)|Toon Link]] (8.47)<br />
18. [[Pit (SSBB)|Pit]] (8.44)<br />
19. [[Peach (SSBB)|Peach]] (8.16)<br />
20. [[Wolf (SSBB)|Wolf]] (7.91)<br />
|
21. [[Luigi (SSBB)|Luigi]] (7.41)<br />
22. [[Zelda (SSBB)|Zelda]] (7.03)<br />
23. [[Bowser (SSBB)|Bowser]] (6.91)<br />
24. [[Fox (SSBB)|Fox]] (6.66)<br />
25. [[Sheik (SSBB)|Sheik]] (6.44)<br />
26. [[Ike (SSBB)|Ike]] (5.91)<br />
|
27. [[Mario (SSBB)|Mario]] (4.56)<br />
28. [[Lucas (SSBB)|Lucas]] (4.50)<br />
29. [[Ness (SSBB)|Ness]] (4.50)<br />
30. [[Samus Aran (SSBB)|Samus]] (4.41)<br />
31. [[Sonic (SSBB)|Sonic]] (4.16)<br />
32. [[Pokémon Trainer (SSBB)|Pokémon Trainer]] (3.94)<br />
33. [[Yoshi (SSBB)|Yoshi]] (3.66)<br />
|
34. [[Link (SSBB)|Link]] (2.28)<br />
35. [[Jigglypuff (SSBB)|Jigglypuff]] (2.03)<br />
36. [[Ganondorf (SSBB)|Ganondorf]] (1.88)<br />
37. [[Captain Falcon (SSBB)|Captain Falcon]] (1.63)<br />
|}
 
By this time no player doubted Metaknight's placing in the old tier list. In many players' opinions, Metaknight wasn't just better than every other character, but better by a noticeable gap. Metaknight was considered so good that it caused a huge debate on whether Metaknight should be allowed in tournaments. After many heated discussions, the SBR decided by vote that Metaknight should be left alone and no one should be banned.
 
Snake was also elevated above other characters to a similar degree, though not to the point of being considered banned. This resulted in both of these characters having their own tier list.
 
Diddy Kong received a huge bump up the tier list after NinjaLink successfully beat Mew2king by abusing Diddy's bananas to a level not seen before. Because landing on a banana leaves your character open to any hit or grab, Diddy is able to control the stage by placing and moving bananas around as needed.
 
===Third Tier List (June 4, 2009)===
{| border="0" style="text-align: center;"
! style="width: 10em;" | S-Tier
! style="width: 10em;" | A-Tier
! style="width: 10em;" | B-Tier
! style="width: 10em;" | C-Tier
! style="width: 10em;" | D-Tier
! style="width: 10em;" | E-Tier
! style="width: 10em;" | F-Tier
|-
| Meta Knight
| Marth
| Lucario
| Peach
| Bowser
| Lucas
| Jigglypuff
|-
| Snake
| Mr. Game & Watch
| Zero Suit Samus
| Luigi
| Zelda
| Mario
| Captain Falcon
|-
| Wario
| Pikachu
| Toon Link
| Fox
| Pokemon Trainer
| Ness
| Link
|-
| Falco
| Olimar
| Pit
| Wolf
| Ike
| Yoshi
| Ganondorf
|-
| Diddy Kong
| Ice Climbers
| Donkey Kong
| Sonic
|
| Samus
|-
| King Dedede
| R.O.B.
|
| Sheik
|-
|
| Kirby
|}
 
The first tier list to not have Captain Falcon last on the list. Instead, Ganondorf is last because of his slow attacks, bad recovery, and lack of mobility.
In this list, Wario and Sonic made a large jump. Wario's change is due to the newly found usefulness of his great air mobility, coupled with great recovery and heavy weight, making him a very defensive character that is hard to KO.
While most of the community perceived Sonic as a bad character, dedicated mains continued to defy the tier list of Jan 1, 2009 by placing high in tourneys. In this tier list, their efforts were finally recognized.
 
==External Links==
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=22623 First ''Melee'' tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=24090 Second ''Melee'' tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=26858 Third ''Melee'' tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=27616 Fourth ''Melee'' tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=31427 Fifth ''Melee'' tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=34788 Sixth ''Melee'' tier list (April Fools)]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=34838 Sixth ''Melee'' tier list (real version)]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=50171 Seventh ''Melee'' tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=81928 Eighth ''Melee'' tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=199342 Ninth ''Melee'' tier list]
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