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I think Marth is worse because he has trouble vs Meta Knight, doing worse against him than all the characters above him, and that matchup is very important because he's the one that is most likely to appear in offline tournaments and most top players use Meta Knight. [[User:Firewario|Firewario]] ([[User talk:Firewario|talk]]) 16:57, July 7, 2010 (UTC) | I think Marth is worse because he has trouble vs Meta Knight, doing worse against him than all the characters above him, and that matchup is very important because he's the one that is most likely to appear in offline tournaments and most top players use Meta Knight. [[User:Firewario|Firewario]] ([[User talk:Firewario|talk]]) 16:57, July 7, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Yeah, I agree with you there. [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 18:26, July 7, 2010 (UTC) | :Yeah, I agree with you there. [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 18:26, July 7, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Meta Knight wasn't in Melee. Even though Marth (SSBB) is bad against Meta Knight (SSBB), that doesn't mean he's nerfed because there's no Melee matchup that it can compare to. [[User:Dr. Pain 99|<span style="color: red;">'''Dr.''' </span><span style="color: orange ">'''Pain''' </span><span style="color: yellow ">'''99''' </span>]] [[File:dp99.png]] [[User talk:Dr. Pain 99| <span style="color:blue">''Talk''</span>]] 22:59, July 7, 2010 (UTC) | ::Meta Knight wasn't in Melee. Even though Marth (SSBB) is bad against Meta Knight (SSBB), that doesn't mean he's nerfed because there's no Melee matchup that it can compare to. Even if there was, matchups aren't great comparisons because both characters could have gotten nerfed/buffed. [[User:Dr. Pain 99|<span style="color: red;">'''Dr.''' </span><span style="color: orange ">'''Pain''' </span><span style="color: yellow ">'''99''' </span>]] [[File:dp99.png]] [[User talk:Dr. Pain 99| <span style="color:blue">''Talk''</span>]] 22:59, July 7, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 19:03, July 7, 2010
Ok so I think that Marth has been nerfed because his tip hitboxes are smaller, loss of L-cancelling (makes dair a lot harder), and loss of chainthrows (due to the major gravity loss of characters). So what do you guys think? Doc King (talk) 15:18, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
Neither: He's just different.
His Dancing Blade is faster and easier to use, his counter is better, his dolPhin slash is stronger and has better recovery. However it's harder to hit with the tip, his dashing speed is slightly slower, and his Shield Breaker is not useful for edgeguarding. These and other changes have slightly affected his play style, but overall he wasn't really buffed or nerfed. Dr. Pain 99 
Talk 15:50, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
He's nerfed
I think Marth is worse because he has trouble vs Meta Knight, doing worse against him than all the characters above him, and that matchup is very important because he's the one that is most likely to appear in offline tournaments and most top players use Meta Knight. Firewario (talk) 16:57, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I agree with you there. Doc King (talk) 18:26, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Meta Knight wasn't in Melee. Even though Marth (SSBB) is bad against Meta Knight (SSBB), that doesn't mean he's nerfed because there's no Melee matchup that it can compare to. Even if there was, matchups aren't great comparisons because both characters could have gotten nerfed/buffed. Dr. Pain 99
Talk 22:59, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
- Meta Knight wasn't in Melee. Even though Marth (SSBB) is bad against Meta Knight (SSBB), that doesn't mean he's nerfed because there's no Melee matchup that it can compare to. Even if there was, matchups aren't great comparisons because both characters could have gotten nerfed/buffed. Dr. Pain 99
