Jab grab: Difference between revisions

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(actually it's really easy with both pika and mario. yet i couldn't do it with fox; just uses jab 2 every time. removing fox until someone can verify that it is possible with him. also i don't see why "grab setups otherwise" are needed as they don)
m (pressed enter too early >_< anyway, "grab setups otherwise" aren't needed here as they don't have anything to do with jab grabs, the actual subject of the article.)
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Certain characters cannot perform this technique and must use other setups instead.
Certain characters cannot perform this technique and must use other setups instead.
*{{SSB|Fox}} and Captain Falcon have potential to use this technique, as well as the characters who can perform it properly. However, this is not considered true shield pressure - rather, it is a [[mindgame]], as a grab cannot be performed immediately after the jab, meaning the user must [[read]] the opponent in order to land the grab. It is a common technique used against Falcon (particularly in Falcon dittos) and Donkey Kong, Link, and Yoshi, for reasons mentioned above, though it is impossible for Fox and Falcon to use the technique against Pikachu and Samus, as explained above. Falcon sets up grabs otherwise with aerials, commonly with [[Z-cancel]]led back aerial, down aerial, and neutral aerial.
*{{SSB|Fox}} and Captain Falcon have potential to use this technique, as well as the characters who can perform it properly. However, this is not considered true shield pressure - rather, it is a [[mindgame]], as a grab cannot be performed immediately after the jab, meaning the user must [[read]] the opponent in order to land the grab. It is a common technique used against Falcon (particularly in Falcon dittos) and Donkey Kong, Link, and Yoshi, for reasons mentioned above, though it is impossible for Fox and Falcon to use the technique against Pikachu and Samus, as explained above.
*The same idea applies to Jigglypuff, {{SSB|Luigi}}, {{SSB|Kirby}}, and {{SSB|Ness}}, but it is much less common due to their slow jabs and movement speed. These characters set up [[grab]]s instead with [[DJC]] aerial (Ness), neutral aerial (Jigglypuff/Kirby) and down air (all four.)
*The same idea applies to Jigglypuff, {{SSB|Luigi}}, {{SSB|Kirby}}, and {{SSB|Ness}}, but it is much less common due to their slow jabs and movement speed.
*Link has enough shield pressure to easily use this technique, but his grab is too slow. Instead, Link users set up grabs using aerials, especially forward aerial and down aerial, as well as [[Bomb (Link)|Bomb]]s and [[Boomerang]]s.
*Link has enough shield pressure to easily use this technique, but his grab is too slow.
*DK cannot use this technique due to his jab being so slow (slowest in the game). DK instead sets up grabs with [[Z-cancel]]led aerials or cargo grab releases.
*DK cannot use this technique due to his jab being so slow (slowest in the game).
*Yoshi and Samus cannot perform this technique efficiently at all as they have incredibly slow grabs and bad jabs. This is commonly noted as one of the other main reasons why Yoshi is at the top of low tier and why Samus is stuck at the bottom of the tier list. Instead, Yoshi can setup grabs with [[DJC]]'d aerials while Samus can set up grabs with fully charged [[Charge Shot]]s in very specific situations; this move is easily dodged by many characters.
*Yoshi and Samus cannot perform this technique efficiently at all as they have incredibly slow grabs and bad jabs. This is commonly noted as one of the other main reasons why Yoshi is at the top of low tier and why Samus is stuck at the bottom of the tier list.


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