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'''Jab Grab''' (abbreviated "'''JG'''") is a character-specific [[:Category:Techniques|technique]] performed by [[Pikachu (SSB)|Pikachu]], [[Mario (SSB)|Mario]], and [[Fox (SSB)|Fox]] (see Notes), done by abusing the shield stun of a jab. It is performed by [[jab]]bing, directly hitting down to prevent a second jab, and then either grabbing or dash-grabbing instantly afterwards. The [[jab cancel]] must be done fast enough so that when done, the opponent is unable to go out of their shield in time and prevent the grab. It is a simple form of shield pressure. Mario is the easiest to do this technique with followed by Fox and then Pikachu. Interestingly, Level 8-9 computers occasionally use this technique as well, especially Mario. This technique is highly useful in competitive play and it is one of the main reasons why certain characters are in certain tier lists as not having this technique highly limits shield pressuring.
'''Jab Grab''' (abbreviated "'''JG'''") is a character-specific [[:Category:Techniques|technique]] performed by [[Pikachu (SSB)|Pikachu]], [[Mario (SSB)|Mario]], and [[Fox (SSB)|Fox]] (see Notes), done by abusing the shield stun of a jab. It is performed by [[jab]]bing, directly hitting down to prevent a second jab, and then either grabbing or dash-grabbing instantly afterwards. The [[jab cancel]] must be done fast enough so that when done, the opponent is unable to go out of their shield in time and prevent the grab. It is a simple form of shield pressure. Mario is the easiest to do this technique with followed by Fox and then Pikachu. Interestingly, Level 8-9 computers occasionally use this technique as well, especially Mario. This technique is highly useful in competitive play and it is one of the main reasons why certain characters are in certain tier lists as not having this technique highly limits shield pressuring.


===How other characters' out-of-shield options affect the usefulness of this technique===
The technique requires different timings for certain characters due to their [[out of shield]] options:
*This technique has to be inputted with perfect timing against Pikachu or Pikachu can [[up special]] out of this technique otherwise due to invincibility frames.  
*This technique has to be inputted with perfect timing against Pikachu or Pikachu can [[up special]] out of this technique otherwise due to invincibility frames.  
*Similar to Pikachu, it is also quite hard to do this technique vs. Samus as Samus can also use up special out of shield very quickly.
*Similar to Pikachu, it is also quite hard to do this technique vs. Samus as Samus can also use up special out of shield very quickly.
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*It is the easiest to do vs Donkey Kong due to his slow [[OoS]] options followed by Link, Yoshi, and Captain Falcon for similar reasons.
*It is the easiest to do vs Donkey Kong due to his slow [[OoS]] options followed by Link, Yoshi, and Captain Falcon for similar reasons.


===Why certain characters cannot use this technique and how they set up grabs instead===
Certain characters cannot perform this technique and must use other setups instead.
*[[Captain Falcon (SSB)|Captain Falcon]] has potential to use this technique as well due to a slower jab cancel and less shield stun but it is not true shield pressure but rather a [[mindgame]]. It is a common technique in Falcon dittos however and vs. [[Donkey Kong (SSB)|DK]]/[[Link (SSB)|Link]] users for the reasons listed above. It is impossible vs a Pikachu or [[Samus (SSB)|Samus]] however for the reasons listed above. Captain Falcon sets up grabs otherwise with aerials, commonly with [[back aerial]], [[down aerial]], and [[neutral aerial]].
*[[Captain Falcon (SSB)|Captain Falcon]] has potential to use this technique as well due to a slower jab cancel and less shield stun but it is not true shield pressure but rather a [[mindgame]]. It is a common technique in Falcon dittos however and vs. [[Donkey Kong (SSB)|DK]]/[[Link (SSB)|Link]] users for the reasons listed above. It is impossible vs a Pikachu or [[Samus (SSB)|Samus]] however for the reasons listed above. Captain Falcon sets up grabs otherwise with aerials, commonly with [[back aerial]], [[down aerial]], and [[neutral aerial]].
*The same idea applies to [[Jigglypuff (SSB)|Jigglypuff]], [[Luigi (SSB)|Luigi]], [[Kirby (SSB)|Kirby]], and [[Ness (SSB)|Ness]], but it is much less common due to their slow jabs and movement speed. These characters set up [[grab]]s instead with [[DJC]] aerial (Ness,) neutral aerial (Jigglypuff/Kirby) and down air (all four.)
*The same idea applies to [[Jigglypuff (SSB)|Jigglypuff]], [[Luigi (SSB)|Luigi]], [[Kirby (SSB)|Kirby]], and [[Ness (SSB)|Ness]], but it is much less common due to their slow jabs and movement speed. These characters set up [[grab]]s instead with [[DJC]] aerial (Ness,) neutral aerial (Jigglypuff/Kirby) and down air (all four.)