Forum:Updating Universe templates to link to pages detailing sources of elements in Smash: Difference between revisions

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::::This sub-page is a bit different from other pages on that template, I grant, in that it is not describing a specific entity in Smash, but rather a list of media from that universe and what they contribute to Smash, but it is fundamentally the same in that is a page about content from a given universe that appears in Smash. Thus, it should belong on the template for that universe just as much. I would rather these not be shunted off on to separate pages, but as long as they are, I see that they stand as worthy elements of the navigation template in their own right.
::::This sub-page is a bit different from other pages on that template, I grant, in that it is not describing a specific entity in Smash, but rather a list of media from that universe and what they contribute to Smash, but it is fundamentally the same in that is a page about content from a given universe that appears in Smash. Thus, it should belong on the template for that universe just as much. I would rather these not be shunted off on to separate pages, but as long as they are, I see that they stand as worthy elements of the navigation template in their own right.
::::In any event, I realize this will go nowhere in building consensus without input from other editors, but I do wonder whether a new proposal on re-integrating those sub-pages into the main universe pages would be more fruitful. I would be willing to support that as an alternative measure. But until that, I stand by it being quite evident that these sub-pages are as worthy of being on the navigation template as any other article describing content from a given universe that appears in Smash.[[User:Pk62001|Pk62001]] ([[User talk:Pk62001|talk]]) 00:49, May 7, 2023 (EDT)
::::In any event, I realize this will go nowhere in building consensus without input from other editors, but I do wonder whether a new proposal on re-integrating those sub-pages into the main universe pages would be more fruitful. I would be willing to support that as an alternative measure. But until that, I stand by it being quite evident that these sub-pages are as worthy of being on the navigation template as any other article describing content from a given universe that appears in Smash.[[User:Pk62001|Pk62001]] ([[User talk:Pk62001|talk]]) 00:49, May 7, 2023 (EDT)
:::::I think that splitting off those pages was necessary, because having giant pages to navigate through is not something admirable for the wiki—I'm not actually sure if that was a move that gained consensus, however, but I digress.
:::::You misunderstood my argument. I'm aware that the universe templates don't have that as it stands, my point was that it would be a terrible move if they ''did''. If we take the Yoshi template from your bringing up, it would look outright terrible if there was a continuous "N/A" applied to an Assist Trophy, boss, or item list, and would, again, be a waste of space. As I mentioned, having giant pages to navigate through is not something admirable for the wiki, though pages can also have their character size reduced by simplification of things (which is the exact reason why we have templates).
:::::I disagree with the notion that it is "fundamentally the same", as it is, at its core, an extension of the universe page, which details the franchise of origin in question; while it does list all of the stuff implemented in Smash from said franchise, it's decidedly one big "origin" section, much like those that you would find on a page for a character, move, Assist Trophy, item, etc., because ''that's its job''. Putting a page like that lumped together with the stuff within said universe makes it look separated and unorganized.
:::::A new proposal isn't necessary, as this page works just fine—it just needs more people to read it. I think reimplementing the subpages into the main pages is also a bad idea, for the above listed reasons. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 01:43, May 7, 2023 (EDT)