Greatest of all time

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''Super Smash Bros. Melee'' is perhaps the only ''Smash'' title with significant debate regarding its greatest player of all time.

Most ''Melee'' players, commentators, and supporters consider {{Sm|Armada}} to be the greatest ''Melee'' player of all time, due to his consistent level of dominance over all other competitors during his prime. Among Armada's major accomplishments include first place finishes at some of the most prestigious ''Melee'' supermajors. He won {{Trn|EVO 2015}} and {{Trn|EVO 2017}}, won three ~~[[Tournament:~~GENESIS (series~~)|GENESIS]]~~ titles, two {{Trn|Apex}} titles, and four ~~[[Tournament:~~Smash Summit (series~~)|Smash Summits]]~~ in a row.

Most ''Melee'' players, commentators, and supporters consider {{Sm|Armada}} to be the greatest ''Melee'' player of all time, due to his consistent level of dominance over all other competitors during his prime. Among Armada's major accomplishments include first place finishes at some of the most prestigious ''Melee'' supermajors. He won {{Trn|EVO 2015}} and {{Trn|EVO 2017}}, won three {{Trn|GENESIS|series}} titles, two {{Trn|Apex}} titles, and four {{Trn|Smash Summit|series}} in a row.

Armada holds positive set records against all of the other Gods. He was considered a candidate for best player in the world from 2009 until his retirement from ''Melee'' in 2018. Armada was commonly considered to be the best player in the word in 2011 and 2012, and in the first six editions of [[SSBMRank]], he was ranked 1st in 2015 and 2016. Additionally, he was ranked 2nd in 2013, 2014, 2017, and 2018, meaning that Armada has never fallen below 2nd place since 2011.

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Supporters of Mango cite his greater longevity compared to Armada with his peaks being just as dominant, if not greater than, Armada's (for example, winning back-to-back EVOs which no other player has done), They also argue that he was able to achieve number one in the world using three different characters (Jigglypuff, Falco, and Fox), all with different playstyles. Mango is often seen as the most influential and recognizable ''Melee'' player, as he popularized a highly aggressive and read-based style of play with his space animals, which made him a fan favorite at tournaments, and he boasts the largest [[Twitch]] following out of any ''Melee'' player; he is often regarded as the "protagonist" of ''Melee''.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://bignokh.com/2018/03/16/the-top-100-melee-players-of-all-time-the-final-five|title="The Top 100 Melee Players of All-Time: The Final Five"}}</ref>, Mango is commonly nicknamed "the GOAT" or "ManGOAT," even by players who consider Armada the greatest of all time.

Both Armada and Mango have publicly commented on the GOAT debate. Armada has referred to himself as the GOAT on Twitter multiple times since 2018.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/ArmadaUGS/status/1077337302773444608|title=Armada's GOAT tweet (2018)}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/ArmadaUGS/status/1136024842766114818|title=Armada's GOAT tweet (2019)}}</ref> In October 2020, Armada and Mango both replied to a Tweet posted by {{Sm|Tafokints}} discussing the GOAT of ''Melee''.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/tafokints/status/1318238704570310656|title=Tafokints' tweet}}</ref> Armada replied to the Tweet first, arguing in favor of his GOAT status, citing his winning record over the rest of the top six, better placements at events the two both attended and having never placed below 5th at any tournament.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/ArmadaUGS/status/1318244958835527683|title=Armada's tweet #1}}</ref> Mango argued that Armada was only ranked number one for two years (2015 and 2016), and even then, Mango boasted a winning record over him in 2016. He argued that his performance was superior to Armada's before 2012 and that his consistent performance did not necessarily translate into dominance,<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/C9Mang0/status/1318251406428499973|title=Mango's tweet #2}}</ref> suggesting that he could have been declared the undisputed GOAT if he chose to retire in 2015.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/C9Mang0/status/1318264769825054721|title=Mango's tweet #3}}</ref> He also added, "At the end of the day it's dumb to discuss whos the goat when we're only halfway thru the movie... There's so much more melee to be played."<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/C9Mang0/status/1318253166161399809|title=Mango's tweet #4}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://dotesports.com/fgc/news/armada-or-mang0-super-smash-bros-melee-community-debates-best-player-ever|title="Armada or Mang0: Super Smash Bros. Melee community debates best player ever"}}</ref>

Both Armada and Mango have publicly commented on the GOAT debate. Armada has referred to himself as the GOAT on [[Twitter]] multiple times since 2018.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/ArmadaUGS/status/1077337302773444608|title=Armada's GOAT tweet (2018)}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/ArmadaUGS/status/1136024842766114818|title=Armada's GOAT tweet (2019)}}</ref> In October 2020, Armada and Mango both replied to a Tweet posted by {{Sm|Tafokints}} discussing the GOAT of ''Melee''.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/tafokints/status/1318238704570310656|title=Tafokints' tweet}}</ref> Armada replied to the Tweet first, arguing in favor of his GOAT status, citing his winning record over the rest of the top six, better placements at events the two both attended and having never placed below 5th at any tournament.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/ArmadaUGS/status/1318244958835527683|title=Armada's tweet #1}}</ref> Mango argued that Armada was only ranked number one for two years (2015 and 2016), and even then, Mango boasted a winning record over him in 2016. He argued that his performance was superior to Armada's before 2012 and that his consistent performance did not necessarily translate into dominance,<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/C9Mang0/status/1318251406428499973|title=Mango's tweet #2}}</ref> suggesting that he could have been declared the undisputed GOAT if he chose to retire in 2015.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/C9Mang0/status/1318264769825054721|title=Mango's tweet #3}}</ref> He also added, "At the end of the day it's dumb to discuss whos the goat when we're only halfway thru the movie... There's so much more melee to be played."<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/C9Mang0/status/1318253166161399809|title=Mango's tweet #4}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://dotesports.com/fgc/news/armada-or-mang0-super-smash-bros-melee-community-debates-best-player-ever|title="Armada or Mang0: Super Smash Bros. Melee community debates best player ever"}}</ref>

Smaller groups have also suggested {{Sm|Ken}}, {{Sm|Mew2King}}, and {{Sm|Hungrybox}} as possible outlier candidates. Ken, known today by his nickname "The King of Smash", is considered the undisputed best player of the [[Super Smash Bros. Melee in competitive play|MLG era]] before ''Brawl''{{'}}s release, and was a candidate for best player in the world from 2004 to 2007. During his prime, Ken was considered the best player by a significant margin, winning nearly every event he entered, and dominated competitive ''Melee'' to a degree far greater than Armada or Mango did during their peaks. However, it is generally agreed that Ken's short longevity at the top diminishes his claim at the GOAT. It has been suggested that Ken competed in a less advanced era of ''Melee'', and that the overall level of competition has greatly improved since his retirement, as evidence by his failure to place top eight at majors during his return to ''Smash'' from 2013-2015.

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 ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'' is perhaps the only ''Smash'' title with significant debate regarding its greatest player of all time.
-Most ''Melee'' players, commentators, and supporters consider {{Sm|Armada}} to be the greatest ''Melee'' player of all time, due to his consistent level of dominance over all other competitors during his prime. Among Armada's major accomplishments include first place finishes at some of the most prestigious ''Melee'' supermajors. He won {{Trn|EVO 2015}} and {{Trn|EVO 2017}}, won three [[Tournament:GENESIS (series)|GENESIS]] titles, two {{Trn|Apex}} titles, and four [[Tournament:Smash Summit (series)|Smash Summits]] in a row.
+Most ''Melee'' players, commentators, and supporters consider {{Sm|Armada}} to be the greatest ''Melee'' player of all time, due to his consistent level of dominance over all other competitors during his prime. Among Armada's major accomplishments include first place finishes at some of the most prestigious ''Melee'' supermajors. He won {{Trn|EVO 2015}} and {{Trn|EVO 2017}}, won three {{Trn|GENESIS|series}} titles, two {{Trn|Apex}} titles, and four {{Trn|Smash Summit|series}} in a row.
 Armada holds positive set records against all of the other Gods. He was considered a candidate for best player in the world from 2009 until his retirement from ''Melee'' in 2018. Armada was commonly considered to be the best player in the word in 2011 and 2012, and in the first six editions of [[SSBMRank]], he was ranked 1st in 2015 and 2016. Additionally, he was ranked 2nd in 2013, 2014, 2017, and 2018, meaning that Armada has never fallen below 2nd place since 2011.
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 Supporters of Mango cite his greater longevity compared to Armada with his peaks being just as dominant, if not greater than, Armada's (for example, winning back-to-back EVOs which no other player has done), They also argue that he was able to achieve number one in the world using three different characters (Jigglypuff, Falco, and Fox), all with different playstyles. Mango is often seen as the most influential and recognizable ''Melee'' player, as he popularized a highly aggressive and read-based style of play with his space animals, which made him a fan favorite at tournaments, and he boasts the largest [[Twitch]] following out of any ''Melee'' player; he is often regarded as the "protagonist" of ''Melee''.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://bignokh.com/2018/03/16/the-top-100-melee-players-of-all-time-the-final-five|title="The Top 100 Melee Players of All-Time: The Final Five"}}</ref>, Mango is commonly nicknamed "the GOAT" or "ManGOAT," even by players who consider Armada the greatest of all time.
-Both Armada and Mango have publicly commented on the GOAT debate. Armada has referred to himself as the GOAT on Twitter multiple times since 2018.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/ArmadaUGS/status/1077337302773444608|title=Armada's GOAT tweet (2018)}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/ArmadaUGS/status/1136024842766114818|title=Armada's GOAT tweet (2019)}}</ref> In October 2020, Armada and Mango both replied to a Tweet posted by {{Sm|Tafokints}} discussing the GOAT of ''Melee''.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/tafokints/status/1318238704570310656|title=Tafokints' tweet}}</ref> Armada replied to the Tweet first, arguing in favor of his GOAT status, citing his winning record over the rest of the top six, better placements at events the two both attended and having never placed below 5th at any tournament.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/ArmadaUGS/status/1318244958835527683|title=Armada's tweet #1}}</ref> Mango argued that Armada was only ranked number one for two years (2015 and 2016), and even then, Mango boasted a winning record over him in 2016. He argued that his performance was superior to Armada's before 2012 and that his consistent performance did not necessarily translate into dominance,<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/C9Mang0/status/1318251406428499973|title=Mango's tweet #2}}</ref> suggesting that he could have been declared the undisputed GOAT if he chose to retire in 2015.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/C9Mang0/status/1318264769825054721|title=Mango's tweet #3}}</ref> He also added, "At the end of the day it's dumb to discuss whos<!--sic--> the goat when we're only halfway thru the movie... There's so much more m<!--sic-->elee to be played."<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/C9Mang0/status/1318253166161399809|title=Mango's tweet #4}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://dotesports.com/fgc/news/armada-or-mang0-super-smash-bros-melee-community-debates-best-player-ever|title="Armada or Mang0: Super Smash Bros. Melee community debates best player ever"}}</ref>
+Both Armada and Mango have publicly commented on the GOAT debate. Armada has referred to himself as the GOAT on [[Twitter]] multiple times since 2018.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/ArmadaUGS/status/1077337302773444608|title=Armada's GOAT tweet (2018)}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/ArmadaUGS/status/1136024842766114818|title=Armada's GOAT tweet (2019)}}</ref> In October 2020, Armada and Mango both replied to a Tweet posted by {{Sm|Tafokints}} discussing the GOAT of ''Melee''.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/tafokints/status/1318238704570310656|title=Tafokints' tweet}}</ref> Armada replied to the Tweet first, arguing in favor of his GOAT status, citing his winning record over the rest of the top six, better placements at events the two both attended and having never placed below 5th at any tournament.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/ArmadaUGS/status/1318244958835527683|title=Armada's tweet #1}}</ref> Mango argued that Armada was only ranked number one for two years (2015 and 2016), and even then, Mango boasted a winning record over him in 2016. He argued that his performance was superior to Armada's before 2012 and that his consistent performance did not necessarily translate into dominance,<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/C9Mang0/status/1318251406428499973|title=Mango's tweet #2}}</ref> suggesting that he could have been declared the undisputed GOAT if he chose to retire in 2015.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/C9Mang0/status/1318264769825054721|title=Mango's tweet #3}}</ref> He also added, "At the end of the day it's dumb to discuss whos<!--sic--> the goat when we're only halfway thru the movie... There's so much more m<!--sic-->elee to be played."<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/C9Mang0/status/1318253166161399809|title=Mango's tweet #4}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=https://dotesports.com/fgc/news/armada-or-mang0-super-smash-bros-melee-community-debates-best-player-ever|title="Armada or Mang0: Super Smash Bros. Melee community debates best player ever"}}</ref>
 Smaller groups have also suggested {{Sm|Ken}}, {{Sm|Mew2King}}, and {{Sm|Hungrybox}} as possible outlier candidates. Ken, known today by his nickname "The King of Smash", is considered the undisputed best player of the [[Super Smash Bros. Melee in competitive play|MLG era]] before ''Brawl''{{'}}s release, and was a candidate for best player in the world from 2004 to 2007. During his prime, Ken was considered the best player by a significant margin, winning nearly every event he entered, and dominated competitive ''Melee'' to a degree far greater than Armada or Mango did during their peaks. However, it is generally agreed that Ken's short longevity at the top diminishes his claim at the GOAT. It has been suggested that Ken competed in a less advanced era of ''Melee'', and that the overall level of competition has greatly improved since his retirement, as evidence by his failure to place top eight at majors during his return to ''Smash'' from 2013-2015.