Talk:Joker (SSBU)

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If his dash speed has been updated in a recent patch, can some change the source referenced to one that shows the new speed? '''[[User:JamesHeart123|James]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|Heart]]''' 01:01, 16 February 2019 (EST)

:Though the Jack files were removed in 2.0.0, I feel a change in speed would be worth documenting. [[User:CardboardLuigi|CardboardLuigi]] ([[User talk:CardboardLuigi|talk]]) 12:23, 16 February 2019 (EST)

== Joker's datamined values ==

Because I [[User:Aidanzapunk#This edit|apparently came off as a dick with my revert]], allow me to make a case for why the datamined values should stay off the page: ''they're bound to change''. The user who removed it is absolutely right; Piranha Plant is full proof that data values can be mined out and revealed to the public (despite how many people don't want to see it and actually be surprised by something), but still change in the end. Where's the third jump? Where's the slow dash speed? Both of those were changed before the character came out. Furthermore, it's not exclusive to ''Ultimate''; remember when Ryu and Dream Land were datamined? Ryu had [[:File:SSB3DS 1.0.6 Ryu Victory Theme.ogg|the OG SFII victory theme]], and Dream Land had {{SSB4MusicLink|Kirby|Forest Stage|an entirely different alternate track}}, and both got changed in the end. Datamined information before it's released is the same as beta elements in a video game. Putting anything that specific on a page like this (and also putting it under the implication that it's fact) is [[SW:SPEC|speculation]] outright. [[User:Aidanzapunk|'''Aidan''']], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|'''the Irish Rurouni''']] 17:00, 3 March 2019 (EST)

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 If his dash speed has been updated in a recent patch, can some change the source referenced to one that shows the new speed? '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 01:01, 16 February 2019 (EST)
 :Though the Jack files were removed in 2.0.0, I feel a change in speed would be worth documenting. [[User:CardboardLuigi|CardboardLuigi]] ([[User talk:CardboardLuigi|talk]]) 12:23, 16 February 2019 (EST)
+== Joker's datamined values ==
+Because I [[User:Aidanzapunk#This edit|apparently came off as a dick with my revert]], allow me to make a case for why the datamined values should stay off the page: ''they're bound to change''. The user who removed it is absolutely right; Piranha Plant is full proof that data values can be mined out and revealed to the public (despite how many people don't want to see it and actually be surprised by something), but still change in the end. Where's the third jump? Where's the slow dash speed? Both of those were changed before the character came out. Furthermore, it's not exclusive to ''Ultimate''; remember when Ryu and Dream Land were datamined? Ryu had [[:File:SSB3DS 1.0.6 Ryu Victory Theme.ogg|the OG SFII victory theme]], and Dream Land had {{SSB4MusicLink|Kirby|Forest Stage|an entirely different alternate track}}, and both got changed in the end. Datamined information before it's released is the same as beta elements in a video game. Putting anything that specific on a page like this (and also putting it under the implication that it's fact) is [[SW:SPEC|speculation]] outright. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Irish Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:00, 3 March 2019 (EST)