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::::::::Focus on the main issue here. A leak can look as convincing as it gets, but it is not and never will be a replacement for real, actual confirmation from trusted sources. Putting the characters revealed in the leak within the Super Smash Bros 4 confirmed content page is premature at best, as they have not been confirmed. Miles has consistently been dodging this issue by claiming consensus made before any leaks occurred- a consensus which is quickly proving to be false; as a former NIWA administrator myself, I am disappointed in how closed-minded Miles is proving to be in the face of reason. Now that the circumstances have changed they must therefore become even more stringent. The video may not be a hoax, but it could easily be a build that has since been scrapped in favor of something completely different. I should also add that the only evidence of Ice Climbers being cut is a quotation from a reporter which the reporter attributed to Sakurai. Additionally, notice that the game physics are completely different from those which have been shown in previous footage and that all of Shulk's moves are direct copies of existing characters' attacks (specifically, Link and Marth), not to mention that Duck Hunt Dog has had not even a single screenshot's worth of gameplay. The leaker even admitted to openly lying about DLC on two separate occasions. How can we trust someone who has been confirmed to be lying in the past- how do we know the leak itself isn't another lie? The leak is being given way too much benefit of the doubt- by definition, a leak is a mixture of partial truths and lies whose only purpose is to make the person telling them get their 15 minutes of fame. For now, nothing proves the leaks. Again, I propose the following change to the policy: | ::::::::Focus on the main issue here. A leak can look as convincing as it gets, but it is not and never will be a replacement for real, actual confirmation from trusted sources. Putting the characters revealed in the leak within the Super Smash Bros 4 confirmed content page is premature at best, as they have not been confirmed. Miles has consistently been dodging this issue by claiming consensus made before any leaks occurred- a consensus which is quickly proving to be false; as a former NIWA administrator myself, I am disappointed in how closed-minded Miles is proving to be in the face of reason. Now that the circumstances have changed they must therefore become even more stringent. The video may not be a hoax, but it could easily be a build that has since been scrapped in favor of something completely different. I should also add that the only evidence of Ice Climbers being cut is a quotation from a reporter which the reporter attributed to Sakurai. Additionally, notice that the game physics are completely different from those which have been shown in previous footage and that all of Shulk's moves are direct copies of existing characters' attacks (specifically, Link and Marth), not to mention that Duck Hunt Dog has had not even a single screenshot's worth of gameplay. The leaker even admitted to openly lying about DLC on two separate occasions. How can we trust someone who has been confirmed to be lying in the past- how do we know the leak itself isn't another lie? The leak is being given way too much benefit of the doubt- by definition, a leak is a mixture of partial truths and lies whose only purpose is to make the person telling them get their 15 minutes of fame. For now, nothing proves the leaks. Again, I propose the following change to the policy: | ||
*Information derived from leaks can be present on pages, but it must not passed off as confirmed material until it is proven to be confirmed by official sources. --[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] ([[User talk:Anothrgamer1234|talk]]) 18:34, 26 August 2014 (EDT) | *Information derived from leaks can be present on pages, but it must not passed off as confirmed material until it is proven to be confirmed by official sources. --[[User:Anothrgamer1234|Anothrgamer1234]] ([[User talk:Anothrgamer1234|talk]]) 18:34, 26 August 2014 (EDT) | ||
:All leaked information is clearly labeled as such. Additionally, we're not taking anything as definitive except what has been shown in video, which is orders of magnitude more difficult to fake. And the physics seemed different in the Shulk battle on YI because it was the end battle after Smash Run, so characters' attributes were altered accordingly. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:29, 26 August 2014 (EDT) | |||
