Editing User talk:Ryo Inazuma

==BliTz==
Hi, I see you continuously add this player to Sonic's page. The problem is though, we have no way of knowing whether or not this player is notable. Can you please provide evidence of notable tournament gameplay before you attempt to add this player again? [[User:Disaster Flare|Disaster Flare]] ([[User talk:Disaster Flare|talk]]) 02:30, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
 
BliTz has been winning tournaments in Chico tourneys and his Sonic is crazy good, I would say like Arikie/Mocha good that's why He should be put in the notable Sonic players <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Ryo Inazuma|Ryo Inazuma]] ([[User talk:Ryo Inazuma|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ryo Inazuma|contribs]]) {{{2}}}</small>

:That seems doubtful. Mocha has gotten Top 16 at EVO 2015, but I can't find any comparable results for BliTz. On top of that, I wouldn't say winning locals makes you a "notable player" if you're not beating other notable players as well. The "notable players" section isn't for every single good player of a character, just the ones that stick out the most. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 09:31, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Just a reminder of this. If you want to try to prove that BliTz is notable, take it to [[Talk:Sonic (SSB4)|the talk page]]. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  16:18, 6 January 2016 (EST)

I don't know if it was you I've been talking to but the fact that you don't put notable players from norcal is pretty fucked up. I'll speak fro BliTz and say that in norcal he's well known, I've noticed you guys entered Jodi Bleek, he's from Norcal and even in the same crew as BliTz yet he's in it. BliTz hasn't gone to EVO but that shouldn't keep him from being on it. Here's a few links I could find of his progress http://challonge.com/ssmashing7 http://challonge.com/Ssmashing9 so you guys should add him to the notable characters you should also be added a few more from norcal like Teb, Legit and arikie as well as BliTz <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Ryo Inazuma|Ryo Inazuma]] ([[User talk:Ryo Inazuma|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ryo Inazuma|contribs]]) 16:30, January 6, 2016</small>
:I don't do competitive stuff, so I honestly don't care what you say. If you want it changed, take it to [[Talk:Sonic (SSB4)|the talk page]]. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  16:32, 6 January 2016 (EST)
omg Im only talking to you because they told me to <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Ryo Inazuma|Ryo Inazuma]] ([[User talk:Ryo Inazuma|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ryo Inazuma|contribs]]) 16:34, January 6, 2016</small>
:Well, now I'm telling you to [[Talk:Sonic (SSB4)|take it to the ''talk page'']]. And also, sign your comments. It just takes four tildes (~). <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  16:40, 6 January 2016 (EST)
ok I believe I messaged on their, not really used to wiki, sorry for bothering you[[User:Ryo Inazuma|Ryo Inazuma]] ([[User talk:Ryo Inazuma#top|talk]]) 16:41, 6 January 2016 (EST)kyle

== Hi ==

{{Reminder|war}}
Please read the above carefully, and I would encourage reading the linked policy as well. Not doing so will result in a block. Thank you, and have a nice day. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:45, 6 January 2016 (EST)
:Look I've brought up the subject already in the talk page it's under notable players, most the sonic's you guys placed haven't even heard of them so what makes Blitz not notable worthy if you guys haven't heard of him? I've already given you a few of his tournaments that he had entered in
::It's because yes, he does have notable results, but compared to the ones on the notable players list, he's not notable enough to be on that list. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 20:52, 6 January 2016 (EST)
::Per DF. Also: {{reminder|sign}} [[Special:Contributions/98.157.202.185|98.157.202.185]] 20:54, 6 January 2016 (EST)
Fine he'll be going to Genesis and I guess I'll tell him about this it's just not fair that there are other people getting noted and no ones heard of them but someone from our region doesn't get the notability they deserve[[User:Ryo Inazuma|Ryo Inazuma]] ([[User talk:Ryo Inazuma#top|talk]]) 20:58, 6 January 2016 (EST)Kyle
:I don't see why you're getting so worked up over this. It's the way our policy works to prevent the lists from being bloated with players with only minor results. He might be notable for it after Genesis, but only if he gets a good placement. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 20:59, 6 January 2016 (EST)
::Quite. If we listed every Joe Schmoe who mains Sonic...the section would be longer than the rest of the page. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:01, 6 January 2016 (EST)
Sorry If I seem unreasonable I just want our region to be respected We have a lot of good players from Chico like Jodi Bleek, BliTz and R-Senal but so far the only one you guys have "recognized" is Jodi Bleek I know if u guys put every sonic on the list then it wouldn't be note worthy but I still believe BliTz is Note worthy...but I'll just let him show you <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Ryo Inazuma|Ryo Inazuma]] ([[User talk:Ryo Inazuma|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ryo Inazuma|contribs]]) 21:11, 6 January 2016 (EST)</small>
:Alright so now that Genesis is over I found out about GiGa crew and asked their progress Jodi Bleek did awesome and BliTz and athena did really good as well, I later find out that Athena was the only one you guys put up for notable players in the wiki page and even have a wiki for her and that's where I'm confused. I talked with them and I find out that both BliTz and Athena were far in their pools but didn't make it out, and both of them had a lot of fans and met them there. But there were a few more jaapnese players that really liked athena (cause she's cute and Robin happens to be really popular in Japan). I've seen Athena play and she's very good but to be honest what she's done so far isn't worthy to be put up in the wiki page, BliTz I've seen since the time he helped start his GiGa crew and he's been busting his ass doing well in tournaments and beating notable players and doing well in his pools yet he isn't put in notable players. But Athena been to a few tournaments, did ok, go to Genesis doesn't make it out of her pool but she still gets put in notable players. I showed Blitz that Athena was put in the wiki and he was pretty mad. I feel that that's a bit sexist to put Athena in just cause she happens to be cute and a girl. Also there was another robin player named Jerm that made it 33rd at Genesis but he wasn't even put in the wiki but Athena who didn't make it out of pools gets to be in the wiki. Now I'm not saying you guys should take her off, but if she's gonna be put on this I believe BliTz more than deserves to be put in Notable players and have his own wiki just like his crewmates Athena and Jodi Bleek have (EST) [[User:Ryo Inazuma|Ryo Inazuma]] ([[User talk:Ryo Inazuma#top|talk]]) 08:00, 20 January 2016 (EST)Connor Kyle
:::There's a few things I would like to point out. Firstly, Jerm [[Smasher:Jerm|does]] have a page, although it was made relatively recently. Myself and a few others have been working on adding all of the notable smashers to this wiki. Secondly, it was a single person who made Athena's page, so it's a but unfair to blame all of us if you disagree with the page being here. A notability tag has been placed on her page, so if she is deemed to be not-notable, the page will be deleted. BliTz seems to be a page, but it's one I would be inclined to tag for notability considering that I can find no major results. Jodi Bleek is definitely notable, considering he got 38th place at EVO 2015 and is/was on the NorCal Power Rankings. I think that's the difference. If you want, I can ask two people who are very knowledgeable on competitive Smash and see what they think, but it could take a while to get an answer. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 10:01, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:ok I'm sorry I didn't mean to blame all of you like I said I don't know how the wiki works,I just thought you all decide on it, but of course Jodi bleek deserves it but that wasn't my point I'm just regarding Athena. BliTz did a whole lot more and better than Athena did yet he Doesn't get put in notable Sonic players nor does he get his own page with a bio and pic like Athena did just for being popular with the japanese, cause she's a female robin player. if you could put him in the notable sonic players and do the same thing whoever did for Athena that would be appreciated.Also the "BliTz" page isn't connected to being a notable sonic player  [[User:Ryo Inazuma|Ryo Inazuma]] ([[User talk:Ryo Inazuma#top|talk]]) 16:15, 20 January 2016 (EST)
::Oh, I get what this is about now. I'm sorry I didn't quite understand the problem before. In my opinion, neither should be on their respective characters' list of notable players. Especially when it comes to Sonic. The other Sonic mains listed on the page have achieved very high results at major tournaments. Some of them do not have articles made for them, and we'll have to check and see if they deserve articles, let alone be on the list. ''Compared'' to the other Sonic mains, BliTz is not nearly as notable, considering that 4 of the Sonic mains on that list placed in the top 64 at Genesis 3. As for the notable Robins, that's a little tougher to determine because I don't know how many of those players use Robin seriously in tournaments. That said, I agree with your complaining about the inconsistency. BliTz seems to be about as notable as Athena and so whatever representation they have on this wiki should be equal. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 16:51, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:So will BliTz be put in notable Sonic players and have his own Bio like Athena? or will they both be taken off? Yes I somewhat agree BliTz isn't at the level as the sonic mains that made it far in G3. But it would be nice to have both Athena and Blitz to be put in notable players. [[User:Ryo Inazuma|Ryo Inazuma]] ([[User talk:Ryo Inazuma#top|talk]]) 19:43, 20 January 2016 (EST)
::Our rules say that to qualify for those "Notable mains" sections, a smasher must meet these criteria:
{{cquote|''Place highly in multiple tournaments largely using the character in question compared to other mains of the character. <br> Must have national recognition for their usage of the character outside of sandbagging and/or must have made significant contributions to the character's meta.''|cite=[[SW:NOTABLE]]}}
::Using that, I don't think either smashers qualify for the "Notable mains" sections. And frankly, I am not certain either are notable enough to warrant a page. One of our admins is on infrequently, but when he is on, he will be able to resolve this situation. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 23:18, 20 January 2016 (EST)
:alright then I guess both of them being off this for now would be the most fair solution, so if you could remove athena I guess that would be the most fair. but hopefully you guys can soon put them both on. They are really doing their best [[User:Ryo Inazuma|Ryo Inazuma]] ([[User talk:Ryo Inazuma#top|talk]]) 20:43, 21 January 2016 (EST)
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 ::Using that, I don't think either smashers qualify for the "Notable mains" sections. And frankly, I am not certain either are notable enough to warrant a page. One of our admins is on infrequently, but when he is on, he will be able to resolve this situation. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 23:18, 20 January 2016 (EST)
 :alright then I guess both of them being off this for now would be the most fair solution, so if you could remove athena I guess that would be the most fair. but hopefully you guys can soon put them both on. They are really doing their best [[User:Ryo Inazuma|Ryo Inazuma]] ([[User talk:Ryo Inazuma#top|talk]]) 20:43, 21 January 2016 (EST)
-== BliTz Part 2 ==
-See [[User talk:98.208.84.118|here]]. I'm not gonna repeat the same message. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 01:27, 29 March 2017 (EDT)
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