Editing User talk:Nyargleblargle/Smash 5 Ideas

I'd like to see some form of explanation on how the assist trophies (specifically the new ones) would function. I'm a little lost on the Sprixies. <small><font color="black">---</font><font color="orange">Preceding unsigned comment added by</font> [[Special:MyPage|<font color="black">BOO</font>]]! <font color="orange">Or maybe</font> [[User:Nutta Butta|<font color="orange">Nutta.</font>]] </small>  14:22, 9 October 2015 (EDT)
:Sure, I'll add something this weekend when I update the stages subpage. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: black">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]<span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;·</span> [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 14:40, 9 October 2015 (EDT)
May I join this discussion? [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|Drill Blaster Mark 2]] ([[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|talk]]) 06:24, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
:Sure! [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: black">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]<span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;·</span> [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 10:37, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
::Okay, so... I took a look at your ideas, and I was impressed. So I just wanted to state my own opinions, and see how different they are compared to the rest.

::Regarding physics (respectively):
::*Burying meteors sound very interesting and open up new strategies, and I want to see how it affects the game overall.
::*No. No. Definitely no. Anything but vectoring.
::*Make it 20%, and I'll say it's perfect.
::*I... have no idea what you mean. Care to elaborate?
::*All of my yes. Players who like this feature will get creative, and those who don't like it will simply not use it.

::The roster is also a bit small, but it's otherwise good. (The only characters I absolutely hate in Smash are Roy and Rosalina.)

::Regarding stages, items and modes, I'm completely neutral. They will all get banned in competitive play, but in casual play, anything new is welcome.

::That's it for now. ^_^

::(I don't know if I was supposed to align all my lines, but I did so anyway...) [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|Drill Blaster Mark 2]] ([[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|talk]]) 12:42, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
:::In terms of the wall animations, it's sort of like [[wall clinging]], but the player still falls slowly and doesn't need to use any special input, they just have to be touching the wall. I do plan to add more characters and features soon, so there's that. Thanks for the input! [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: black">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]<span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;·</span> [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 13:39, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
::::So it's basically the same wall physics as Mario Bros. I don't see why not, it's easy to use and practical for recovery. Okay then, I'll be looking forward to seeing more of these ideas (please add Lucina). Keep up the good work, bruh. [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|Drill Blaster Mark 2]] ([[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|talk]]) 15:54, 10 October 2015 (EDT)

== The roster? ==

What is your reasoning behind the roster? Do you mind explaining why you cut [[Ness|so many characters]] (lol)? I can tell that villains were not a priority, since Bowser, Ganondorf, [[Mewtwo|and]] [[Meta Knight|the]] [[King Dedede|semi]]-[[Wario|villains]] were all cut. Yet you keep Dark Pit and add Black Shadow and Face Raider, of all villains. Jigglypuff stays, and you add that character from Pushmo, a series which I would argue is much more obscure than many of the universes you removed. I see that Rayman is the only third-party character. Don't get me wrong, I'm always interested to see other peoples' ideas for the roster and their reasoning for it. I find it funny how our visions for ''SSBV'' are completely different. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 16:44, 12 October 2015 (EDT)
:I think Nyargle is adding them as they come up with ideas. Wait until they reply though. [[User:DekZek|<font color="Black">'''DekZek, '''</font><font color="Orange">'''The creature of your nightmares'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig-Oct.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 16:46, 12 October 2015 (EDT)
::Sorry, just seeing this now. DekZek hit it on the nose. I can tell you that I am planning to add almost all the characters you mentioned, but I'm trying to refine the changes I have in mind for them before I add them. I must have had a billion ideas for Ganondorf, but I tried to cut it down to the best 5-10 (I'm trying to keep this semi-realistic, after all).

::As for Face Raider, it's sort of the Wii Fit Trainer of my personal vision of Smash 5. You could argue about Mallo, but I wanted to include an eShop rep, and I couldn't come up with a lot of interesting stuff for Dillon or Tempo (from HarmoKnight). Finally, Dark Pit would probably take very little time to add, and I had a more straightforward set of ideas for him, so I added him first. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #ffa500">'''Nyargle</span><span style="color: orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #7cfc00;">blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 13:47, 7 November 2015 (EST)
:::Thanks for clearing all of that up. I look forward to seeing your future roster additions. Would you have a problem with me taking the codes for the tables if I gave you credit? <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 19:28, 20 November 2015 (EST)
::::You can take it even if you don't give me credit. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 16:19, 4 December 2015 (EST)

== Tons of ideas, feel free to add ==

Hi Nyargle, for your Smash 5 ideas page, I have a ton of potential ideas. Examples include customizable final smashes, ability to change attack specs, character models, and stages (limiting/simple interface to prevent piracy), and so much more. Do you want me to expand on any of these ideas here? They would take a lot of space, though, as I have thought of these for a while. What do you think? [[User:DekZek|<font color="Black">'''DekZek, '''</font><font color="Orange">'''The creature of your nightmares'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig-Oct.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 12:12, 15 October 2015 (EDT)
:I have a few ideas myself to allow more customization, but I want to keep them a surprise until I've fleshed them out a bit more. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: black">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]<span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;·</span> [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 12:51, 15 October 2015 (EDT)

== Items? ==

I'mma ask the same thing I asked about the assist trophies for items. Like, what is Topi for? What makes the FE sword different from the Beam Sword? Etc. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  13:38, 7 November 2015 (EST)
:I'll probably add descriptions next week, around the time I add to the list of stages. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #ffa500">'''Nyargle</span><span style="color: orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #7cfc00;">blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 13:49, 7 November 2015 (EST)
::So does this mean Mr. Saturn was cut? D: <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  13:08, 20 November 2015 (EST)
:::No, not necessarily. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #ffa500">'''Nyargle</span><span style="color: orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #800000;">blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 13:11, 20 November 2015 (EST)
::::Oooh, suspense. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  13:12, 20 November 2015 (EST)
:::::Mr. Saturn is good overall: 42 shield damage and a hilarious sound. But the Blue Shell, the Beehive and the Cucco... The horror can't be described. [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<span style="color:Gold">'''Drill Blaster'''</span> <span style="color:LightBlue">'''Mark'''</span> <span style="color:Crimson">'''2'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<span style="color:Grey">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:15, 20 November 2015 (EST)
::::::My vision of Smash 5 takes a very minimal approach in terms of items, so I can't promise all of those items will be listed. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #ffa500">'''Nyargle</span><span style="color: orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #800000;">blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 15:36, 20 November 2015 (EST)
<small>(Reset indent) </small> Calling it now, Nyargle's making Mr. Saturn a character (and every attack breaks shields). XD [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 15:40, 20 November 2015 (EST)
:DRAT, YOU'VE DISCOVERED MY PLAN! [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #ffa500">'''Nyargle</span><span style="color: orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #800000;">blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 15:46, 20 November 2015 (EST)
::SMASH 5 LEAK [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 15:47, 20 November 2015 (EST)
:::Confirmed, my uncle works at Nintendo. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #ffa500">'''Nyargle</span><span style="color: orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #800000;">blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 15:49, 20 November 2015 (EST)
::::Hide your Jigglypuffs. [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<span style="color:Gold">'''Drill Blaster'''</span> <span style="color:LightBlue">'''Mark'''</span> <span style="color:Crimson">'''2'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<span style="color:Grey">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:53, 20 November 2015 (EST)

Actually, Mr. Saturn would make sense for a newcomer from EarthBound if they had to have one. Introducing just one party member from EB or Mother 3 wouldn't make much sense without the others (or at least one from each game), but Mr. Saturn was in the two most recent games.

A moveset for him on the other hand... (Alternatively, Giygas/Giegue would work, since he was the main villain in the first two games and a major influence in the third. And he'd have a moveset.) <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  18:24, 20 November 2015 (EST)
:Obviously Giegue would just be a Mewtwo clone. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:41, 20 November 2015 (EST)
::I actually don't know what his moveset in Mother and EarthBound is (i don't really know all that much about the games)... But I'm assuming that's some form of joke based on his fanart being [http://cogdis.tazmily.com/img/giegue.jpg frighteningly similar] to Mewtwo's art. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  19:31, 20 November 2015 (EST)
:::I mean, yeah, that was the joke. Giegue/Giygas really doesn't have much direct moveset potential, honestly. In Mother 1 he sits in a pod and fires inexplicable psychic attacks, and in EarthBound he's an incomprehensible black and red mess. There's a reason they went with Pokey/Porky's spider mech as the Mother series boss in Smash. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:55, 20 November 2015 (EST)
::::Ah... Yeah I remember reading something about that.
::::So yeah, Mr. Saturn is the only good choice for a Mother newcomer. (Or Flying Man? They'd have a moveset, but they only have a minor role in the first two games... so...) <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  22:57, 20 November 2015 (EST)

== Just a thought ==

Have you considered integrating any of these ideas into SSBD? [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 16:59, 8 January 2016 (EST)
:Yes, but I'd like to keep this as its own thing right now to maintain consistency. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 17:02, 8 January 2016 (EST)
::Ah. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 17:02, 8 January 2016 (EST)

== 2x speed ==

This is impossible as the system only has a limited processing speed. The NX might be more powerfull but then it has to be about 2 times as fast (pretty fucking logical), i don't think that's possible. Special smash has "fast" as an option but it tricks you into thinking it's faster. Or you would have to restrict something else.  [[User:Cloud-master|Cloud-master]] ([[User talk:Cloud-master|talk]]) 17:09, 26 July 2016 (EDT)
:I meant Special Smash-style. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 09:45, 21 August 2016 (EDT)
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