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:Oh, I forgot you weren't in the Discord. I asked Toomai about it in the Discord, and they replied "It is indeed possible for XL to bulk-upload spirit images (he did sticker images the exact same way). However, I still have to manually rename every file from its internal name to set this up.". Given that manually doing this also allows for us to check the categories and also to ensure every image is ripped as opposed to just the same artwork (there might be a few stragglers), I decided it was best to do it manually. I'm only uploading 5-Volt for now to test the concept, since I needed a picture to use to test my templates, but once I know the templates work I will plan out actually doing it on scale. [[User:DekZek|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Dek'''</font><font color="Blue">'''Zek'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 20:16, November 18, 2020 (EST)
:Oh, I forgot you weren't in the Discord. I asked Toomai about it in the Discord, and they replied "It is indeed possible for XL to bulk-upload spirit images (he did sticker images the exact same way). However, I still have to manually rename every file from its internal name to set this up.". Given that manually doing this also allows for us to check the categories and also to ensure every image is ripped as opposed to just the same artwork (there might be a few stragglers), I decided it was best to do it manually. I'm only uploading 5-Volt for now to test the concept, since I needed a picture to use to test my templates, but once I know the templates work I will plan out actually doing it on scale. [[User:DekZek|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Dek'''</font><font color="Blue">'''Zek'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 20:16, November 18, 2020 (EST)
::Yeah, I'm not on the Discord for personal reasons. It would've been convenient to start this when I did my mass edits last week, but hindsight is 20/20. If you'd like a hand just let me know. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:24, November 18, 2020 (EST)
::Yeah, I'm not on the Discord for personal reasons. It would've been convenient to start this when I did my mass edits last week, but hindsight is 20/20. If you'd like a hand just let me know. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:24, November 18, 2020 (EST)
:::I understand. Actually it was your userpage that started the discussion on standardization. Right now, I'm trying to figure out how to make the template at [[Template:SpiritTableName]] work, but I'm probably missing something important. Other than what I mentioned above about standardization also allowing us to fix errors we might have glossed over, basically the only thing you missed in this discussion was Toomai suggesting the name format I'm using. It allows us to futureproof, while also being relatively intuitive to use once implemented(the only other option that was scalable was to reference by number). [[User:DekZek|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Dek'''</font><font color="Blue">'''Zek'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 20:28, November 18, 2020 (EST)
:::I understand. Actually it was your userpage that started the discussion on standardization. Right now, I'm trying to figure out how to make the template at [[User:DekZek/to-do/Spirit]] work, but I'm probably missing something important. Other than what I mentioned above about standardization also allowing us to fix errors we might have glossed over, basically the only thing you missed in this discussion was Toomai suggesting the name format I'm using. It allows us to futureproof, while also being relatively intuitive to use once implemented(the only other option that was scalable was to reference by number). [[User:DekZek|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Dek'''</font><font color="Blue">'''Zek'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 20:28, November 18, 2020 (EST)
::::<s>I guess I can soon delete that sub-userpage since it served its purpose.</s> Is the template intended on being used in the mainspace? I'm not sure what the best way to handle links is as some (like Cat Princess Peach) don't link the full name or have multiple links. You could make it strict where <nowiki>{{{link}}}</nowiki> must include the proper formatting and ignore <nowiki>{{{Name}}}</nowiki> if <nowiki>{{{link}}}</nowiki> is defined. Also I'd think about putting the anchor in the same cell as the name (assuming it doesn't mess with sorting). And the only trouble with using names instead of numbers is if the spirit is renamed like with Slime or Dimitri, but that has only happened maybe 5 times (numbers get confusing if you go by pre-2.0.0 numbers). --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:44, November 18, 2020 (EST)
::::<s>I guess I can soon delete that sub-userpage since it served its purpose.</s> Is the template intended on being used in the mainspace? I'm not sure what the best way to handle links is as some (like Cat Princess Peach) don't link the full name or have multiple links. You could make it strict where <nowiki>{{{link}}}</nowiki> must include the proper formatting and ignore <nowiki>{{{Name}}}</nowiki> if <nowiki>{{{link}}}</nowiki> is defined. Also I'd think about putting the anchor in the same cell as the name (assuming it doesn't mess with sorting). And the only trouble with using names instead of numbers is if the spirit is renamed like with Slime or Dimitri, but that has only happened maybe 5 times (numbers get confusing if you go by pre-2.0.0 numbers). --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:44, November 18, 2020 (EST)
:::::The template is intended to eventually be used in the mainspace, but I wanted to ensure its quality first. I was initially thinking of just having link be a y/n linking within SmashWiki, but now that you mention it it would probably be better to enable interwiki links somehow. I completely forgot about the anchor while making the template, but yeah it should be a part of it since it will always be the same name, given what I've seen from pages where the anchor is used it shouldn't cause any issues, but we should double-check. The reason we chose names over numbers as identifiers was because numbers would have made the whole system cumbersome to use, as pulling up an image would require referencing the lists of spirits to find the appropriate number. It's not just about pulling up the image within a template, but also for the times where an image needs to be referred to within a gallery. Also, this whole thing is likely going to take a while to properly do, I wanted to set up the framework so that I could deal with it in the future when I have less obligations. [[User:DekZek|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Dek'''</font><font color="Blue">'''Zek'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 20:59, November 18, 2020 (EST)
:::::The template is intended to eventually be used in the mainspace, but I wanted to ensure its quality first. I was initially thinking of just having link be a y/n linking within SmashWiki, but now that you mention it it would probably be better to enable interwiki links somehow. I completely forgot about the anchor while making the template, but yeah it should be a part of it since it will always be the same name, given what I've seen from pages where the anchor is used it shouldn't cause any issues, but we should double-check. The reason we chose names over numbers as identifiers was because numbers would have made the whole system cumbersome to use, as pulling up an image would require referencing the lists of spirits to find the appropriate number. It's not just about pulling up the image within a template, but also for the times where an image needs to be referred to within a gallery. Also, this whole thing is likely going to take a while to properly do, I wanted to set up the framework so that I could deal with it in the future when I have less obligations. [[User:DekZek|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Dek'''</font><font color="Blue">'''Zek'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 20:59, November 18, 2020 (EST)

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