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== Kirby ==

Sorry, it is because when I was playing melee, he seemed to not have any angry expressions, no matter what I do with him [[Special:Contributions/172.58.49.98|172.58.49.98]] 04:04, January 13, 2025 (EST)

== Gravity Style Spirit training and falling friction ==

I've been doing some experimenting with floaty Spirit combinations, and I've noticed that the Gravity Style seems to reduce a character's falling friction, much like the Floaty Jumps ability does, and possibly to an even greater extent, which ironically can result in characters like Jigglypuff falling to the ground faster from set weight attacks and damage fly top attacks as it takes longer for her to decelerate to her falling speed. It isn't listed as one of the stat modifications on the Spirits article though, so I was wondering if you could check the Spirit training data again to see if you could find the data for it? ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 00:05, March 10, 2025 (EDT)
:Gravity Style has an air_brake_y multiplier of 0.6, pretty significant. Ninja is the only other one with it defined, being 0.5. Meshima_ has a [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vV-Ee9UvWDzO5H4SnweoNYumhCm8bZapS9bbB0ALgH4/edit?gid=1236924470#gid=1236924470&range=A1 spreadsheet with all of the values] (from 6.0.0 but Gravity is at least the same in latest patch) if you want to see everything, though you'll want to make a personal copy so you can unhide the columns. Styles are in the same order as they are in game, with Gravity being style_balloon. The reason it isn't noted on the spirit article is I didn't know what it was and so just didn't do anything with it--also likely I didn't even have access to the parameters when I made it (not knowing the attribute existed during testing) and never went back to append it. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 02:31, March 10, 2025 (EDT)

== April 2025 ==

Please stop! If you continue to vandalize [[SmashWiki]], like you did at [[Super Happy Tree]], you my be block from editing. [[Special:Contributions/67.176.220.225|67.176.220.225]] 17:56, April 14, 2025 (EDT)

== SpongeBob and Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl ==

Does CanvasK, know about SpongeBob and Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl. ??? : [[Special:Contributions/60.88.85.201|60.88.85.201]] 22:17, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelodeon_All-Star_Brawl

Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl 2 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickelodeon_All-Star_Brawl_2

== Inami Temple / Mishima Dojo ==

{{Infobox Stage
|subtitle     = ''{{iw|wikipedia|Mega Man X6}}'' / ''{{iw|wikipedia|Tekken 7}}''
|name         = Inami Temple / Mishima Dojo
|image        = [[File:SSBU-Mishima Dojo.png|300px]]
|caption      = [[File:MegaManSymbol.svg|50px|class=invert-dark]][[File:TekkenSymbol.svg|50px|class=invert-dark]]<br>Inami Temple or Mishima Dojo in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''.
|universe     = {{uv|Mega Man}}<br>{{uv|Tekken}}
|games        = ''[[Ultimate]]''
|availability = [[Downloadable content|Downloadable]]
|cratetype    = Normal
|maxplayers   = [[8-Player Smash|8]]
|ultimatemusic = [[List of SSBU Music (Tekken series)|''Tekken'' series music]]<br>Main: ''{{SSBUMusicLink|Tekken|Kazuya Mishima, Devil Kazuya (Remix)}}''<br>Alternate: ''{{SSBUMusicLink|Tekken|Dojo (Japanese-Style Mix)}}''
|ultimatesingles=Banned
|ultimatedoubles=Banned
}}

[[Mishima Dojo]]. Rainy Turtloid's stage in Mega Man X6, "Inami Temple" is also thought to be a similar stage to '''Mishima Dojo'''. If the moon is visible, it is the same as the "Amazon Area" in Commander Yammark's stage. : [[Special:Contributions/60.70.160.204|60.70.160.204]] 10:36, May 13, 2025 (EDT)

== Terry Crowd Cheer ==

This is the second time someone has shortened Terry's crowd cheer from "come on, come on, Terry" to just "come on, Terry", and I'm really confused as to why. When you listen to the recording used in the article itself, they're very clearly saying "come on, come on, Terry", even going so far as to sort of imitate the way Terry himself delivers the "come on, come on" line. I really don't get why people keep saying they only say it once. Does the file perhaps skip forward sometimes when played? File is here for reference: [[File:Terry Cheer English SSBU.ogg|left]] ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 20:15, April 25, 2025 (EDT)
:I downloaded the file and opened it in Audacity to make sure my browser or the wiki's cache/server wasn't messing with the playback, then did the same with a rip from Sounds Resource, and I genuinely do not hear a second instance of "come on". The deeper voices sound a little out of sync with the higher ones, but it is close enough that I'd say it only has 3 words total. The closest to a repeated word be with "Come come Terry" but "Come on Terry" is a better match. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:32, April 25, 2025 (EDT)
::Hmm, maybe try slowing it down? I put it in Garage Band and reduced the tempo to 80% (<s>without pitch correction</s> ok, I think it actually was doing some pitch correction) and it actually becomes a lot clearer what they're saying. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 20:36, April 25, 2025 (EDT)
:::If anything it made it more clear that it is "Come on Terry". --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:47, April 25, 2025 (EDT)
::::Ok, I slowed down and pitch shifted the cheer to make it as clear as I could, and made [[:File:ComeOnComeOnTerry.mp4|this]]. If you still can't hear that they say come on twice, and not just once, then I'm kinda at a loss... ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 20:58, April 25, 2025 (EDT)
:As an third source, I think I can here two very fast "come on"s in succession, but the single, slower "come on" is a lot more apparent. 
:I think it may be "come on come on Terry", and hearing "come on Terry" could be because come and on, when spoken fast, sound really similar to each other, and since the "come on come on" part is spoken really fast, the first "come on" sounds more like "come" because of the silence before it, and the second "come on" sounds more like "on" because there is a pause between the two and "Terry". In both cases, the silence/pause emphasizes one of the words. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 21:07, April 25, 2025 (EDT)

:Listening to it more, I can hear it as either "Comon comon Terry" or "Come on Terry". The reverb from the first set drowns out the consonant sound of the second set making it tricky to tell. I'll concede to "Come on come on Terry". --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 21:40, April 25, 2025 (EDT)
::Fourth source: I've said this elsewhere, but it's clearly a "c'mon", as opposed to a "come on", and I think denoting it as the latter is what's messing with people. It's quick, and I'll admit it's barely noticeable, but it's there. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: pink;">'''the Springing Gamer'''</span>]] 23:39, April 25, 2025 (EDT)

== Regarding the stop effect's duration... ==

Since the effect works differently from normal hitlag, I was wondering if it was bound by the 30 frame hitlag cap, or if it has its own cap/no cap at all? Also, if there is a cap, is it worth mentioning, or should it be left out because the cap could never be reached anyway? ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 19:38, June 1, 2025 (EDT)
:It is not tied to hitlag and is seemingly uncapped and based purely on base knockback (at least in Smash 4). Made a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrvzfMIkEsY quick video] to show it, modified Link's arrow to use the effect. The shaking appears to wear off about 3/4ths the way through but the target is still inactionable for the remaining duration. Set the BKB to like 150,000,000 and Samus was stuck for a few minutes before I hit her out of it. Also turns out that they can't ''technically'' be grabbed... like you can grab them but the game won't actually put them in your hand until the effect wears off, nor can they mash out since they aren't technically grabbed (tested with Kirby too to make sure it wasn't Link's tether grab being weird). Hitting them can knock them out of the effect sometimes. I don't think there'd be any harm with mention a cap or lack of. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:29, June 1, 2025 (EDT)
::Was able to check it out in Ultimate with modified values and it works the same as in Smash 4. I did also find out that you can reduce the duration to 0.67x by crouching. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 23:38, June 1, 2025 (EDT)

== Thanks for adding hitbox data for Wario Bike ==

I really appreciate it. I would've done it myself, but I don't currently have a "legally obtained copy of the ''Brawl'' iso", and I couldn't find the data on rukaidata. 🤟 [[User:Mariogeek2|Mariogeek2]] ([[User talk:Mariogeek2|talk]]) 20:14, June 18, 2025 (EDT)
:Thanks again, you're the best :D [[User:Mariogeek2|Mariogeek2]] ([[User talk:Mariogeek2|talk]]) 21:44, June 20, 2025 (EDT)

== Build a Page about Ultimate S ==

Let's Build a Page about Ultimate S by Chrispo a mod overhaul upgrade to Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:178.214.250.49|178.214.250.49]] ([[User talk:178.214.250.49|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/178.214.250.49|contribs]]) 13:31, June 30, 2025 (EDT)</small>
:I already [[Special:Diff/1984502|told you the reason]] why it doesn't qualify for an article. Do not pester me about the matter. When you post on talk pages, sign your posts with 4 tildes <nowiki>(~~~~)</nowiki>. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 15:06, June 30, 2025 (EDT)

== Remix Peppy ==
...is that the policy? Because, like, that's fine by me if it is, but the page has been using unofficial art for so long, I genuinely wasn't aware. Super Sonic and Ebisumaru used non-Remix Team art for a long time before being replaced by TheQuickSlash and Sope's art respectively. The Metal Bros., Dr. Luigi, and Giga Bowser all use art from artists not on the team. Heck, Dragon King did until just earlier today, and I only removed it because the artist (the same one who did Peppy and Dr. Luigi) was embarassed by the fact it wasn't their best work. The impression I got from the official Discord was that the official artists only do boss character art if and when they feel like it, and don't really care about the use of fan renders. Again, I'm totally fine if we take the "official only" approach, but it does need to be applied unilaterally, as opposed to the inconsistent approach being taken right now. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 13:20, July 2, 2025 (EDT)
:On [[SmashWiki:Images]], it says "Do not use fanart in the mainspace. There are limited situations where it may be used to demonstrate a point, but in general, articles should stick to screenshots and official images only." This gets a ''tiny'' bit tricky when in the realm of fangames, but in my personal opinion, fangames should use the art made by the people who worked on those mods, which is as "official" as it gets. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 13:27, July 2, 2025 (EDT)

:I made the revert based on my understanding of the aforementioned policy. The other "unofficial" renders went under the radar largely because most of the editors don't pay much attention to mods. I didn't look into the issue until the Dragon King revert happened. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 13:31, July 2, 2025 (EDT)
::In that case, like I said, you're gonna have to revert/replace the Metal Bros, Dr. Luigi, and Giga Bowser art. Otherwise, it's just gonna come off as more confusing with some characters having unofficial art and some not. (You should probably also explain this to SantigamerYT, since they're the one who's been uploading all the unofficial art.) -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 13:37, July 2, 2025 (EDT)

==Captain Falcon==
Sorry, I did not know Hard Drive was a satire site. Thanks for telling me. I need to be more careful with checking my sources. [[User:Lcrossmk8|Lcrossmk8]] ([[User talk:Lcrossmk8|talk]]) 21:52, August 20, 2025 (EDT)

== Wind on Jungle Japes in Melee ==

So, I noticed that the water in the Melee version of [[Jungle Japes]] isn't purely aesthetic, since it actually does push fighters to the left while they're inside it, though this effect is usually negligible since they tend to die off the bottom within about a second of this happening. Since currents aren't a thing yet (due to the lack of swimming), I assume this is done by wind instead? I was wondering if you could check if it is in fact wind, and if so how strong the wind is for the wind article. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 23:28, August 20, 2025 (EDT)
:I don't know if Melee (or the other games) have a designated "wind" object/function and could be custom functions that have the end result of appearing like wind. HSD DAT Browser doesn't display any kind of region for "wind" to be; same with Green Greens. There is a pile of unlabeled numbers in the files that are parameters for various stage things and some of them correspond to the "wind". Testing in game I verified it is -3.0 u/f when one's collision is below -40.0. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 00:09, August 21, 2025 (EDT)
::So, is that to say that there's no individual function in Melee that produces all the wind effects we see in-game, but rather the devs just hard code some kind of pushing effect for fighters in certain parts of stages each time? I guess then that including all of these examples in the wind article is more of a convention. Generally I would define wind as anything that pushes fighters a fixed distance in a specified direction each frame when within its range, stacking with any other movement they have, unless they are currently immune to wind. So I think the rushing water sweeping opponents to the side in Melee would count, whereas water currents would not, since they only apply if the fighter is considered to be swimming or floating in the water (and thus don't apply if, for example, they are in the lockout window for re-entering water after jumping out of it, even if they are within the water's area of effect). You also can't gain immunity to water currents through any means, including Spirits in Ultimate. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 00:34, August 21, 2025 (EDT)
:::Potentially. I can't say definitively without the source code. HSD DAT Browser is pretty robust but there's some things it doesn't label either because no one has looked into it or the file is too stripped down to reliably interpret it. Looking at a decompilation project, there's a function and a portion in the common fighter file labeled that applies a wind vector to a fighter. Maybe there is a specific function for wind or maybe several hard coded functions that return a standard wind format, not very clear. I won't object to it being added to the Wind article though. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 06:34, August 21, 2025 (EDT)

== Is the windbox on the Falcon Flyer set knockback or not? ==

Hi, I was wondering if you could clear up something I was confused about. In [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Wind&curid=30447&diff=2004889&oldid=1997527 this edit summary] you mentioned the Meta Ridley boss fight actually uses a windbox, rather than wind, to push the player. You said it has a FKB value of 1, meaning it uses set knockback, but also said the knockback scales with percent, implying it DOESN'T use set knockback. So I was wondering if you could clear up what you meant. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 19:44, September 30, 2025 (EDT)
:Seems I wasn't as thorough as I should've been in my testing. When modifying position in memory sometimes the position won't be exactly what was set for physics or some other reason. I may have not let it settle for the 999% test and misconstrued that error as extra windbox movement. Or maybe Meta Ridley shook the ship and I didn't let it settle. Regardless, did a more controlled test and 0% and 999% were the same. I always forget how FKB is supposed to work. The KBG and FKB values I mentioned are correct and there's no difficulty scaling on any property. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:25, September 30, 2025 (EDT)

== [[:File:TGMLabelled.png]] ==

Hey, so I noticed you uploaded a clearer version of the Great Maze map file, but if I may make one small criticism, in my original image the 4 warp points were clearly indicated on the map, as they are in-game, but the purple gem effect for them isn't visible in the version you uploaded (maybe you took the screenshot at a bad time?). Is this something that can perhaps be fixed? ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 20:13, October 28, 2025 (EDT)
:That's a fair point. Yeah it was poorly timed and wasn't on my mind when making it. I'll get a new one up. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:23, October 28, 2025 (EDT)

== Can you please make my IP address' talk page? ==

(message from a user in [[Special:Contributions/70.22.248.187|70.22.248.187]] at 10:09, November 22, 2025 (EST))
:There's no reason for you to have a talk page unless someone needs to inform you of something, which I don't think is needed at the moment. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 15:00, November 22, 2025 (EST)

::Off-topic: I've just made my 53rd edit! [[Special:Contributions/70.22.248.187|70.22.248.187]] 13:48, December 6, 2025 (EST)

== Why my Steve edit… ==

Are you an admin or what? Why did you removed my change??? [[Special:Contributions/194.230.144.22|194.230.144.22]] 14:30, December 17, 2025 (EST)
:I'm a regular editor and my edit summary covers why I removed it. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 14:36, December 17, 2025 (EST)

== Stop it ==

Stop deleting my change. Look in Inceroars normal article, instead one of his ultimate ones and you should actually stop deleting my true edits [[Special:Contributions/178.82.27.142|178.82.27.142]] 10:28, December 21, 2025 (EST)
:I looked at Incineroar's Ultimate article, its normal article, and the voice actor/staff article. In all 3 places the same info was added without a source and I couldn't find anything anywhere online to back up the claim as mentioned in my edit summary. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 10:41, December 21, 2025 (EST)

== 1.65 ==

Dunno if this helps, but 1.65 does happen to be 5*0.33. 0.33 isn't in the params directly, but it is 1-0.67, so maybe it has something to do with that? ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 18:53, January 14, 2026 (EST)
:That would make sense. I'll mess around with that idea later and see if I can make the formula simpler. Using 5 it is very close to just being the regular formula with a small modification. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 19:25, January 14, 2026 (EST)

== A question about freeze duration ==

So, the formula you have for non-ice attacks seems to work well for moves that deal low damage, but kinda falls apart for moves which deal higher damage. For example, when I throw a Freezie at the ground at 0%, it freezes Mario for 88 frames. If I then reset the percent to 0 and hit frozen Mario with a Home Run swing, dealing 18% to frozen Mario, according to the formula this should reduce the freeze time by 11 frames, but actually still seems to increase the freeze duration despite p being 0 and d being high. Similar thing happens with Warlock Punch (which also does 18% to frozen opponents). Is there some kind of threshold where the output flips to being negative anyway? ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 20:04, January 14, 2026 (EST)
:Oh dear, and just when I thought I was done. With a very brief test with HRB and setting the initial freeze to 100, the math checks out. It isn't until a few more hits when it stops at 60.3. Setting the freeze timer to 5 will then jump it back up to 60.3. That happens to be 3.35x18, and 3.35 = 5*.67. With multiple hits it is similar times 0.67 again. So the current theory is that above d*5*(0.67^c) is when the math I wrote works and below that it forces the value to that threshold. This is way more involved than it needs to be. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:28, January 14, 2026 (EST)

== Trophies/spirits ==

For whatever reason, the "Trophies"/"Spirit(s)" sections in character pages use the character's name more often than necessary. I have fixed this to some extent ([https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Yoshi_(SSBM)&diff=prev&oldid=2018993], [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Olimar_(SSBB)&diff=prev&oldid=2018411],[https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Peach_(SSB4)&diff=prev&oldid=2015319], [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Ike_(SSBU)&diff=prev&oldid=2005768]), but was wondering if I could have some help doing the rest. <span style="font-family:Formata Regular">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 05:55, January 15, 2026 (EST)
:I can look into doing this later today. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 06:45, January 15, 2026 (EST)

== Mango's Birthday Bash ==

Mango's Birthday Bash is also listed with a USA icon on the List of major tournaments (SSBM) page, though it took place in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. I don't have permissions to fix it [[Special:Contributions/135.23.41.56|135.23.41.56]] 00:09, January 25, 2026 (UTC)

== Question ==

Why do you mostly remove stuff, instead adding stuff? [[Special:Contributions/178.82.27.142|178.82.27.142]] 18:42, February 2, 2026 (UTC)
:That depends. If you're referring to the series of tournament edits it is because those pages had defunct wikicode that had no benefit and only served to take up space or confuse future editors who may copy it and spread the issue. If you're referring to why on a given day my only edits are an undo or revert, it is because edits deserving of that are easy to spot and deal with.

:It may appear that I don't add to the wiki often but that is because: 1, I like to do everything in one go if possible; 2, I often go for technical information instead of just general (e.g. saying the specific number of frames instead of "a few seconds"); and 3, I don't like being wrong. These together result in me spending hours, days, or weeks looking into things before making an edit as it can take a while to sus out the finer points of things and I want to ensure it is correct. My edits to "freezing" took 2 days to work out. "List of tips" took 2 weeks because I needed a custom script to accurately get the data and get to a state to make the edits smooth (my computer also had a hardware issue, but that added only a couple days). Everything related to Subspace Emissary took a few months as the tools for Brawl had very little support for the info I needed and I ended up making several scripts that I had to make sure would work across 270 stage files or 60 enemy files, research a bunch of at-the-time unknown values, find what was and what wasn't useful to include on the articles, put it into a usable format, and verify everything that was already there. All of that combined with a lull in motivation for the wiki or Smash means I don't make many constructive edits and will often go after low-hanging fruit when I glance at the wiki for a bit. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 19:20, February 2, 2026 (UTC)

== Is this a good introduction about Lucario (SSBU)? ==

Hey CanvasK, I have been interested to put an better introduction, as one of mine old edit was… umm… bad. Here is what I wrote for Lucario‘s introduction:

Lucario's game plan is the aura. It increases when it is highly damaged. With a high damage value, it has a kill power, whose power can be compared to a heavyweight. Outside of that, it has strong comeback power, whereby the high damage helps Lucario well, with which it then finish off the opponent early. It also has a good mobility, with a solid air speed. This allows a good recovery, thanks to the Wall Cling and Extreme Speed. Aura Sphere is also a good projectile with which it forces the opponent to change their plan. Force Palm also has a flexibility function because it allows good grab options and mix-ups. Ultimately, Lucario's Normal, Grab, and Special Attacks are stronger at high aura. Aura Sphere becomes bigger, faster and does more damage, Force Palm has more range and attack power, Extreme Speed becomes faster and increases the range and Double Team becomes stronger, with which it increases the K.O potential. This, together with the Aura Mechanics, allows it to finish off the enemy faster.

Outside of the strengths, Lucario, like every fighter, has weaknesses, especially negative are the weakening of Rage to the transition from SSB4 to SSBU and some other. Rage's Nerf has affected Lucario itself more negatively, because it has no way to finish off the opponent early. In addition, it is also very weak at low percentages, which is missing, to increase damage, further catapult the enemy and zone the enemy. Lucario itself is also easy to zone. Without the Aura Sphere charge, it has the problems of getting into close combat, making it difficult to approach. Aura Sphere itself also no longer does more hitlag, allowing opponents to escape it easier. It‘s recovery is still problematic. Although Extreme Speed has a good range and speed, some enemies know how to interrupt it, whereby the range and speed also becomes high that Lucario has the risks of destroying himself. In addition to this, the controls for Extreme Speed has been made more arkward. It also has still only below-average mobility, whereby fast fighters like Sonic, Mythra and Captain Falcon can overhelm it in pressure. Finally, when it gets stronger with Aura, it risks itself to be finished earlier, with even a 150% or a 170% damage being enough to give an KO to itself early.

Because of these factors, Lucario is less successful than in SSBB and SSB4. Despite this however, it nevertheless managed to be still successful, thanks to players like Tsu and Gachipi.

Note: Also sorry for the long text… [[Special:Contributions/188.155.18.4|188.155.18.4]] 18:44, February 7, 2026 (UTC)

== Thanks CanvasK ==

I started to categorize spirits to get my edits up. I got my 1,000th edit by categorizing spirits, and now you’re doing it. Thanks. [[User:Mario Maniac|Mario Maniac]] ([[User talk:Mario Maniac|talk]]) 22:21, April 2, 2026 (UTC)
:I saw you've been at it since early March. Figured I'd end that torment a bit faster so you can do something less boring sooner. It's faster on desktop and this isn't my first rodeo mass-categorizing. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 22:32, April 2, 2026 (UTC)
::That's how I've gotten the majority of my edits; by categorizing of spirit images. While I may just be an autoconfirmed user, I'll gain [[SW:EST|established status]] in about a month (I joined in early February, and I’ve made way more than 100 edits, more like 1,000). So, I'll just have to wait until then. [[User:Mario Maniac|Mario Maniac]] ([[User talk:Mario Maniac|talk]]) 01:58, April 3, 2026 (UTC)

== So, is that all of them? ==

Are all of the spirits categorized? I'd think yes. Also, can I do the honors and remove the {{t|incomplete}} tags from [[:Category:Primary spirits]] and [[:Category:Support spirits]]? [[User:Mario Maniac|Mario Maniac]] ([[User talk:Mario Maniac|talk]]) 02:54, April 4, 2026 (UTC)
:Yeah, that's all of them. Did another search to verify and I missed one, but I got it. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 02:57, April 4, 2026 (UTC)
::I did the honors and removed the incomplete tags from the categories, and now I can do something less boring.  [[User:Mario Maniac|Mario Maniac]] ([[User talk:Mario Maniac|talk]]) 03:05, April 4, 2026 (UTC)

== Thanks for reply about Kirby! ==

Since you agree that he debuted in Smash, I can now stop modifying pages for personal requests.


Thx a lot again [[Special:Contributions/62.98.108.80|62.98.108.80]] 23:14, April 23, 2026 (UTC)
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