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Key

Edgar = Yunna

Juan = Mondogod

Translations

Max's Accusation

Post 1

Source: https://twitter.com/minmmei_/status/1663642191690907649

Text

I want to talk to you about this whole problem to give an end to everything that is happening in Smash Caracas, Mondongod and Yunna. (...)

Edgar Garcia (Yunna, EDX) turns out that a long time ago he shared my nudes to several people in the Smash community that I will not name most of them to avoid problems, but one of these being Juan (Mondongod) of which he took it upon himself to do an investigation on the matter giving that indeed Edgar was sharing this content as revenge to put me in a bad position, in addition, to tell me to bitch onwards.

Juan decided to ban Yunna temporarily for 6 months without giving an explanation as to why or even mentioning her name, only talking about "a person who is banned" as a way of punishment for her actions. I personally never had a beef with Yunna, I only had messages from him that I never replied to, over the years of being out of and in a relationship (never being underage tho).

I had no approach to Juan, the truth is I never talked to him before the Stone Ocean, I saw him as a member of the community being a friend of my acquaintances, until on a trip to Caracas he proceeded to invite me to the Stone Ocean as a guest Cosplayer. I gladly said yes, (...) but by that time Juan already knew and had seen my pictures, he knew about Yunna and never said a word to me.

After the Stone Ocean 7, an incident occurred because it was never made clear to us (and it was never transparent) how the prize pool was distributed, so it left a bad taste in our mouths and we let him know via Twitter, gossip that everyone saw. He proceeded to block me from my accounts (...). Later I found out from several friends that Juan was talking to people to ban me from Smash tournaments, for defamation to Yunna where I said that I was underage and similar things (which is a lie). As he didn't manage to get proof and nobody was going to prove him right, the ban didn't happen and nothing happened, it was just a bad joke.

Since he didn't manage to mess with me, ironically he later attributed this defamation to another player who is no longer part of the community @whatishitbox (Hyper) about whom nothing happened (yet) either.

This is where today's problem begins, and I find out that Yunna spoke ill of me out of spite to other members of the Community and sent my photos because she "needed to let off steam" with the intention of discrediting me.

Screenshot

Yes
She was a minor
Tremendous bitch
What a nuisance it is to see her getting involved in the community.
I hate de pana, it makes me too bannable the fact that there are e-girls that love to ban.
In Smash
💀💀💀
Sorry, I was just venting
I'm sure you like her
But that
That thing he said about me
That was ugly
And she's a whore

Post 2

Source: https://twitter.com/minmmei_/status/1663642204978442242

Where I also learn that Juan was aware of this, but decided to play foolish and continue defending his friend, having the balls to accuse me and several other people for defamation of his friend.

(...) The fact that I trusted a person who was only defending an abuser makes me feel bad, where Juan defended Edgar from the beginning knowing that he had done these things and never told me anything because he knew that this statement would be late or soon it would come to light and it would harm everyone, in addition to not saying anything about this that happened to ANYONE for the same reason knowing that it would damage his image and the very community that he formed."

Post 3

Source: https://twitter.com/minmmei_/status/1663665040321306625

"Here is in evidence where Juan admits not having told me when this behavior of Yunna was supposed and how he was not banning permanently if not UNTIL NOW that everything came to light, and where he still continues to defend him from something that I never said about him. How is he lying to me about defending him when I have evidence of him saying that he wanted to seek to ban me and another member of the community for "accusing" Yunna "

Audio

Juan's Audio: Hello, how are you? (...) Honestly, what about the post is that it bothers me in a certain way is that I received content from you like that when it is not the case, well (...) rather when Oliver told me that he wanted to send me your photos, I told him I said no. Regarding the post that was made, I was already planning to ban Edgar, and it is something that I mentioned to the two people who told me to comment on your case. Because they wanted your case to go under the table, because they didn't want to hurt your feelings, so as not to ruin your stay in Caracas, or to bother you with it, and if it could be resolved under the table, let it be resolved. I accepted. Everything that happened with Edgar is disgusting, it's reprehensible, and it's very wrong. There is nothing to grab from that. And he is permanently banned then. At least in my events, now that everything has come to light, it will go to x, which will document the case and that.

Max: Juan, that's not the problem, even though they didn't want to hurt my feelings, that's something I have to know because I'm the affected person and the one with the problem. I could live my whole life without knowing that Yunna did those things and you were rather defending him not long ago.

Juan: What? When did I defend him? Since I found out I decided to ban him. I was never on his side.

Max: Dude, you were actively seeking to ban me for slandering Yunna. Do you think I don't have those messages? Are you seriously looking at this whole situation and your reaction is to manipulate you and me with that response? I didn't want to write to you because I knew that this was going to affect me, but this is ridiculous, Juan.

2nd Audio: (...) A bad act does not remove the other. I went with Luis (Hyper) to talk about the subject and about Edgar's vendetta, because they were saying that he was an active pedophile. So I decided to contact Luis, he confessed to me that he has no proof, and that is very serious, Max. It's not a matter of "Oh well, since Edgar is a son of a bitch, you have to throw all the shit at Edgar." No, that's wrong. Here everything had a reaction and a consequence, and what was done was really serious. But look, I understand why you wrote on Twitter the other day that I wanted to ban you. Max, I don't want to ban you. BUT, all Edgar was telling me was that you were saying that he was a pedophile well. And in part he was not wrong. So, do you think it is correct that anyone in the community be slandered, told that he is a child fucker, and go unpunished? It does not seem to me and it is something that should be punished.

Mondogod's Response

Source: https://twitter.com/Mondongodd/status/1663689101357330434

"Guys, I'm going to finish this because honestly it annoys me to continue with the little topic.

Two people at Stone Ocean 7 told me what happened with the case related to Edgar, they asked me to keep it confidential because they didn't want to affect Max directly. Ehich is perfectly understandable, they didn't want her to feel bad during her stay in Caracas or feel terrible about all this.

I go to Edgar and he explains the whole situation to me regarding what he did and why he did it. That both she and Hyper were throwing deceitful accusations at him. Here I must limit what Edgar did, it was wrong and I never defended what he did, I spoke to him once and he had been assigned a 6-month ban from at least the tournaments that was later extended to indefinite.

I spoke with Hyper and he claimed all the blame for what had happened, that he had started the rumors about Edgar and that he has no evidence to determine if Edgar was doing the serious things that were being attributed to him. He also broke the confidentiality of the matter by telling Max everything we talked about (that's why Max's message a few days ago saying that he wanted to ban her, she was with him) when what I said is that if they were really slandering Edgar, this could mean a ban.

In the end Luis never had proof, he can claim what he wants and defend himself as he pleases.

One of his allegations is that he wants to protect the victims now, when a few days ago he told me that he had absolutely nothing. He questioned his affected friends and they too could not provide a relevant accusation. There was nothing.

Then we come to today where I let Hyper know that I did not want him to organize in any capacity or participate in any tournament that I hosted. I wanted to keep this private at the request of the two people who initially told me to keep the matter confidential and in the end Luis decided to post what I posted and then Max. I repeat, I never defended Edgar as he wants to show, even though he is my friend, I was always waiting to pull the trigger whenever the evidence was there, but this is a problem that was triggered by very serious accusations against a person and that ended in what We know what happened today and I consider that what Luis did in a certain way is also grotesque on the whole topic that is being discussed.

The Back Room has the evidence of everything, from what happened with Edgar to what happened with Luis and they will make a decision and I will abide by what they tell me. Honestly, I'm not going to be monitoring this kind of thing in the community anymore, what started as a goodwill initiative ended in this shitty festival and I really don't want to be a part of it because in the end this is not what I want. It is up to you, if you want to report missing participants, please notify the Back Room directly."

Hyper's Response

Source: https://twitter.com/WhatIsAHitbox/status/1663743039527895040