Editing Template talk:Warning

Hmm. Useful, classy, and simple. Nice job. '''[[User:Silverdragon706|FyreNWater]]''' -  <small>([[User talk:Silverdragon706|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Silverdragon706|Contributions]] )</small> 06:47, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Finally. I was wondering why we didn't have this already. It looks good. ([[User:Wolf O'Donnell|Wolf O'Donnell]] <small>([[User talk:Wolf O'Donnell|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Wolf O'Donnell|contributions]])</small> 06:49, 28 June 2008 (UTC))

:What about adding text regarding subjects other than vandalism? Such as personal attacks, etc. ([[User:Wolf O'Donnell|Wolf O'Donnell]] <small>([[User talk:Wolf O'Donnell|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Wolf O'Donnell|contributions]])</small> 00:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC))

== Deletion ==

Any reasons that [[SW:QDV]] doesn't cover, [[SW:AGF]] will.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 00:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:Well, that seems to be users or IPs who snapped or new users or IPs who need to be given some advice. However, recently, it seems that this template doesn't seem to be necessary to use anymore, what with [[SW:QDV]] being (in a way/kind of) new. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:#003333">Mario</span><span style="color:darkslategray">Galaxy</span>]]'''<sup><small>'''[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:#333333">Death has a price.</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:#330000">I've paid it...</span>]]'''</small></sup> 00:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::How is a single, to the point warning not in keeping with QDV?  QDV is meant to prevent people from trolling vandals, not to prevent someone from warning an IP that their edit(s) may have been construed as vandalism.  &ndash; [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] [[user talk:Defiant Elements|<font color=black><small>''+talk''</small></font>]] 00:36, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, but a few users here (after I didn't QDV; afterwards, when I gave IPs warnings, they said I shouldn't do so anymore) have been saying that I shouldn't waste my time warning a vandal. Wait, now I'm definitely confused. You see, users have said now to warn an IP, as they don't want it showing up in the recent changes. Now I feel like an idiot. Let me guess, you shouldn't warn obvious vandals, but IPs who barely vandalized should be given a warning? '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:#003333">Mario</span><span style="color:darkslategray">Galaxy</span>]]'''<sup><small>'''[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:#333333">Death has a price.</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:#330000">I've paid it...</span>]]'''</small></sup> 00:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::::It's true that a warning won't stop most vandals, and if you've got a guy who's goin' on a spree or somesuch, then yea, a warning's probably not gonna do anything.  Still, I don't think that's a good reason to delete this template -- there's no harm in a single warning.  &ndash; [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] [[user talk:Defiant Elements|<font color=black><small>''+talk''</small></font>]] 00:48, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I just realized that. I removed the tag. Thanks for explaing it to me, DE. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:#003333">Mario</span><span style="color:darkslategray">Galaxy</span>]]'''<sup><small>'''[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:#333333">Death has a price.</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:#330000">I've paid it...</span>]]'''</small></sup> 00:58, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

== What gives ==

Why the reversion? --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[w:c:wow:User:Sky2042|w]]) 01:21, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
:Why did you remove the box? And aren't you inactive? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 21:28, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
::Because we don't need boxes on our talk pages. As to the second question: How does being inactive have anything to do with anything? --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[w:c:wow:User:Sky2042|w]]) 22:51, April 3, 2010 (UTC)
:::[http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/SmashWiki:Administrators#Inactive You aren't inactive]? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 22:56, April 3, 2010 (UTC)
::::You must have missed the note in this page history&hellip; Oh, and the fact that you didn't answer my question. That's cute. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[w:c:wow:User:Sky2042|w]]) 23:03, April 3, 2010 (UTC)
:::::If you were truly inactive, then this would not be much of a bother. My surprise was positive, as in "Hey, you're back! :D", by the way, but judging by your recent edits, you're only active as a pest on talk pages, opposing the general consensus. What up widdat? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 00:05, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

== Why ==

Did we stopping using this? <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> ''TONDA GOSSA.'' 17:10, 27 September 2011 (EDT)
:Yes, because for vandals, warnings are ineffective, and for other cases, we don't need such a template to warn someone. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:02, 27 September 2011 (EDT)

== How about we delete this now ==

This page is horribly outdated. [[SW:QDV]] and [[SW:AGF]] make this completely unnecessary, as stated above. Also stated above is the fact that this basically hasn't been used for a really, really long time. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the air con. 14:22, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

Sure. Keel all useless things. --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 14:23, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

If we deleted it, would it not disappear in all places it was used? It's going to have to stay, I'm afraid. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 14:28, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

It only links to two places, so it's easily replaced by text. We were able to change everything for, when example, we switched to the new icons, and this would be a lot easier to do. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the air con. 14:30, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
:If it's a template that has been used, then allow it to stay in the form of a template. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 14:31, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

I think these policies are important, so why delete this template? [[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|Kirby]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 14:32, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

Because as AirCon just said, lack of use. And I think we can replace the instances where this is used with text. --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 14:33, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
:If it doesn't need to be changed into raw text, don't bother. You're fighting for very little, here. If I were you, I'd pack my bags and move on, this is pointless. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 14:35, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
:Well, I want to actually get something done instead of having nothing happen like in [[Category talk:Disambiguation]], [[Talk:Newcomer]], and Template talk:IRC. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the air con. 14:38, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
::With the former and latter, action should take place there, as having consistency with disambiguations is helpful, and the IRC template should die. Newcomer, I couldn't care less about. This template, there is no reason to delete it, "Actually getting something done" is not a reason to delete something. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:ToastUltimatum|ToastUltimatum]] ([[User talk:ToastUltimatum|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum|contribs]]) 14:41, October 27, 2012</small>
:::Also to get rid of unnecessary stuff. If I made a template to display a recipe for chocolate chip muffins, it would be deleted in an instant. Even though this is slightly more relevant to editing, it's just as unnecessary and therefore should be deleted. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the air con. 14:44, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
::::Well, your IRC template problem will be fixed soon, I've just tagged it with a speedy delete. I was planning to get around to talking about Newcomer. --[[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 14:46, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
	
::::Your recipes template would be killed straight away because it would be useless here. This template has been used. So, while it is never to be used again, it doesn't need to be deleted, nor should it. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 14:47, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
:::::It's just unnecessary. The only times I can find it being used are just to demonstrate how it works, or that it exists. And besides, a recipe template is very useful. Haven't you ever wondered how to make delicious muffins? <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the air con. 15:01, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

Unfortunately I known that [[User talk:SmashPeter|SmashPeter's talk page]] also had this template which we warned him about his vandalism a year ago, so I don't think this template is completely unused or useless. [[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|Kirby]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 14:59, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
:Again, we can just replace it with text. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the air con. 15:01, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
::Why. Not even bothering with a question mark. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 15:07, 27 October 2012 (EDT)
:::To solve the problem YOU stated as "This template has been used." I think that might have something to do with it...<span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:black">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:orange">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] I am the air con. 15:45, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

I would like to insert a general comment here about templates like these that are basically canned responses: their usefulness is proportional to the size of the wiki and number of cases where it is applicable. I agree that in our current state we don't need a canned response for generic vandalism, as a personalized warning is far more useful and we don't currently have enough cases that people get snowed under trying to warn the miscreants. Will we need to remake this when we get bigger and have more people to deal with? Unanswerable.

I will also note that the template is supposed to be sustituted, and so replacing it with text is what's supposed to happen. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Researcher 16:31, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

'''Keep''' I was one of the most frequent users of this template back in the day. While SW:QDV says that we should assume good faith and report vandals to admins, there are cases when users may be doing editing tests and be unaware that their edits are saved. Another thing to note is that without some kind of warning that shows up on a vandal's talk page, they may not be aware of their blocks (especially if they are an infrequent vandal and their block is only a day or so). The reason it is rarely used is because, as Toomai said, we don't have much vandalism right now. But unless the case is a long time vandal like Poopy or SmashPeter, it's important to make the vandal aware of their actions and the consequences of such behavior. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  18:55, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

To clarify one more thing: SW:QDV says nothing about warnings. It mainly refers to behavior that may make the situation work. [[User_talk:Semicolon#If_you_are_an_admin|This]], for example, is a situation where the policy would apply. Simply warning a vandal of the consequences of their actions in a calm and non-trolling manner is not. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  19:00, 27 October 2012 (EDT)

Maybe we can expand the parameters of the template so it doesn't include only vandals. Other users might be involved in misdemeanors such as edit wars, flaming, etc. Or is that what the violation template is supposed to be? [[File:GreenMarioBrawlHead.png|15px]][[User:Green Mario|<span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#32CD32">
Green</span>]] [[User talk:Green Mario|<span style="font-family:Papyrus;color:#FFA500">Mario</span>]] 00:29, 28 October 2012 (EDT)
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