Editing Talk:Thunder (Pokémon)

== Thunder hitting downward in Melee ==

[[File:SSBM Thunder Hit Downward.gif|thumb]]
Was just watching [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFAkhD8mxqE&t=4m16s some Melee video] and I saw this. Dunno what causes it to hit the opponent downward, can someone verify this? [[User:Scr7|{{Color|#0000FF"|S}}{{Color|#7F7FFF|c}}{{Color|#00FFFF|r}}]][[User talk:Scr7|{{Color|#FF7F00|7}}]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/Scr7]] [[Special:Editcount/Scr7|{{Color|#FF0000|<nowiki>=D</nowiki>}}]] 17:51, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
:That is indeed pretty strange, especially since no part of Thunder that I know of has that low knockback. I'd like to say it's a phantom hit but he takes the full 10% damage, and if he somehow got hit twice (once normally, a second time a phantom hit) it'd be ridiculously hard to verify. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Researcher 18:13, 22 August 2013 (EDT)

Turns out it's likely to be the [[ceiling glitch]]... just saying this so no one thinks it's unanswered. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 12:39, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
:It doesn't match the ceiling glitch's requirements though. It doesn't involve the victim being clanked/rebounded, and CF only ever takes one trajectory, not two. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Irrepressible 13:04, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
::Brian told me on IRC that it's the ceiling glitch, then he started telling me about the glitch itself (I was unaware of it at that time). I'm unsure about this but I have no idea what else could cause the move to hit downward. Maybe you could ask him about it. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 13:12, 12 September 2013 (EDT)

== Move to (Pikachu) ==

'''Disagree''' - Bomb_(Link) is used entirely by characters named Link, but not all of the characters who use Thunder are named Pikachu. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 18:11, 16 July 2014 (EDT)

<s>Dude, there's Young Link and Toon Link too. We're using Pikachu as a general term, as Link is a general term for Toon/young Link. <font face="sand">[[User:Qwerty|<font color="#04FE6D">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="#66CC2A">da</font>]] [[Special:Logout|<font color="#08CFCC">beast</font>]]</font> [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]]  18:17, 16 July 2014 (EDT)</s>
:Except Young and Toon Link only have those adjectives so they have a distinct name from the adult Link. Pikachu and Pichu are more different (albeit only barely). [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:21, 16 July 2014 (EDT)
::I want to end this discussion quickly, so we can fix links, but I want to get my way as well, so look: Pikachu and Pichu are semi-clones. A special move in Pikachu's moveset can be used to refer to one in Pichu's (they're the same) so Thunder (Pikachu) is good. Thunder (Pokémon), on the other hand, states that this is the move from the Pokémon universe (or used by a Pokémon, eh, whatever you see it as). I'd stick with the more specific one.<font face="sand">[[User:Qwerty|<font color="#04FE6D">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="#66CC2A">da</font>]] [[Special:Logout|<font color="#08CFCC">beast</font>]]</font> [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]]  18:31, 16 July 2014 (EDT)
:::'''Oppose''', per FL's comment. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 18:35, 16 July 2014 (EDT)
Why aren't we using Bomb (Zelda) then? And don't say it's because there's a character named Zelda without a bomb because not every Pokémon has thunder.<font face="sand">[[User:Qwerty|<font color="#04FE6D">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="#66CC2A">da</font>]] [[Special:Logout|<font color="#08CFCC">beast</font>]]</font> [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]]  18:40, 16 July 2014 (EDT)
:As I explained, Young/Toon Link are only not named "Link" because that name is already taken on the roster. Pikachu and Pichu are different names. "Bomb (Zelda)" would be an appropriate title if the move were available to a character that isn't "____ Link" but that's not the case. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:45, 16 July 2014 (EDT)
::OK I take back my first comment, but what about the second one?<font face="sand">[[User:Qwerty|<font color="#04FE6D">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="#66CC2A">da</font>]] [[Special:Logout|<font color="#08CFCC">beast</font>]]</font> [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]]  18:48, 16 July 2014 (EDT)
:::Anybody?<font face="sand">[[User:Qwerty|<font color="#04FE6D">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="#66CC2A">da</font>]] [[Special:Logout|<font color="#08CFCC">beast</font>]]</font> [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]]  01:23, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
::::I'm not quite sure I understand which point wasn't addressed. Could you clarify? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 02:06, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

'''Oppose''' Per FirstaLasto and also, it isn't just Pikachu and Pichu that uses Thunder, Poké Ball Pokémon such as Raikou and Rayquaza should also be considered. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Hammer Bro 10:37, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

'''Oppose''' - All of the characters who use that version of Bomb are "Link" (Toon and Young just being modifications because they themselves are different characters), whereas Thunder is used by Pikachu, Pichu, and Raikou, among others. These are not all "Pikachu", but they are all "Pokemon". I may be open to a different name, but "Pikachu" is inaccurate. '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 11:48, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:Alright I see your point.<font face="sand">[[User:Qwerty|<font color="#04FE6D">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="#66CC2A">da</font>]] [[Special:Logout|<font color="#08CFCC">beast</font>]]</font> [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]]  14:58, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
==Gen 6 Image==
Could someone replace the image in Gen 5 with an image from Gen 6? '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 11:48, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
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