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| I mentioned the talk page myself, but Trainer Alex stated that the "consensus decided it should be there", and wouldn't elaborate when I asked if a vote had already been held. --[[User:Burb|Burb]] ([[User talk:Burb|talk]]) 09:08, 9 July 2018 (EDT) | | I mentioned the talk page myself, but Trainer Alex stated that the "consensus decided it should be there", and wouldn't elaborate when I asked if a vote had already been held. --[[User:Burb|Burb]] ([[User talk:Burb|talk]]) 09:08, 9 July 2018 (EDT) |
| :Excuse me, I said no such thing. What I said was that you had not followed correct procedure according to [[SW:CONSENSUS]] ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 09:10, 9 July 2018 (EDT)
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| I misunderstood what you meant be "consensus". My bad. But, still, this addition to the page makes absolutely no sense and we already have the cross-game table that serves the same purpose without adding a speculation column to the bottom of a page that ''shouldn't have speculation on it''. There's no justification for this at all. It'd be the equivalent of if we started listing all noteworthy characters that haven't been disconfirmed already as "Possible Newcomers" on Smash Ultimate's main page. --[[User:Burb|Burb]] ([[User talk:Burb|talk]]) 09:15, 9 July 2018 (EDT)
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| :I agree, and I '''support''' this proposal, but policy should still be followed. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 09:18, 9 July 2018 (EDT)
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| '''Support.''' I was the one who tried to remove it in the first place. I was doing it before it was cool :P [[User:Ahemtoday|Ahemtoday]] ([[User talk:Ahemtoday|talk]]) 09:30, 9 July 2018 (EDT)
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| I also '''Support''' this proposal, but I must also stress the seriousness of what you are doing by flouting our policies on edit warring and consensus. I strongly advise you to read up on our policies before you do anything more on this site. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 10:19, 9 July 2018 (EDT)
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| '''Support''', as [[SW:NOT#SmashWiki is not speculative|we're not speculative]]. The table makes it clear that we don't know whether it will be back or not. Putting a list like this in makes it seem like they will, it just hasn't been shown yet (which is speculation at its finest). [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 11:27, 9 July 2018 (EDT)
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| '''Support''', this list is just confusing to the reader and, as already mentionned above, purely speculative in its nature. [[User:Ponyshment|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 1px 1px 6px purple">'''Ponyshment'''</span>]] [[File:PonyshmentSignature.png|20px|link=User_talk:Ponyshment]] 11:32, 9 July 2018 (EDT)
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| == Unconfirmed stages ==
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| Is there any evidence that the stages that were not show in the direct to be ultimately confirmed not to return? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America 15:46, 8 August 2018 (EDT)
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| :Ha, nice pun (whether or not it's intentional, I don't know, but it's a good one). To answer your question, GameXplain did point out that they showed a Monster Hunter stage not included in the 103 stage count so those stages could be back. I also asked about this before noticing you did as well (see below). [[User:Aykrivwassup|Aykrivwassup]] ([[User talk:Aykrivwassup|talk]]) 17:57, 8 August 2018 (EDT)
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| == Unconfirmed Stages Redux ==
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| I noticed that the stages that weren't confirmed in today's Direct (including Poké Floats, Jungle Hijinks and Icicle Mountain) are marked as not returning, but there was also a Monster Hunter stage that, as pointed out by GameXplain in their recent Discussion video, wasn't included in the 103 count, which means there will be more than 103 stages. Should the count be adjusted and the X symbols be reverted to ~s/maybes, or should they remain as X's until confirmed? [[User:Aykrivwassup|Aykrivwassup]] ([[User talk:Aykrivwassup|talk]]) 17:54, 8 August 2018 (EDT)
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| :It's not clear if the Monster Hunter "stage" is actually a stage; think the "unknown jungle stage" from Smash 4 that turned out to be [[Smash Run]].
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| :Sakurai quite clearly said that there were "103" stages, with 100 if you don't count Battlefield, Big Battlefield, or Final Destination, whereas he said there were "more than" however many music tracks he said. Seems pretty straightforward to me. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 18:11, 8 August 2018 (EDT)
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| ::I suppose that's a possibility. I'm just really hoping for Pac-Maze and Poké Floats. I checked back on the video and Sakurai said that the "stage total is ''turning out to be'' pretty impressive". Perhaps that means that they've developed 103 so far and have a few more planned? I dunno. We'll have to find out. I think we should change them back to maybes until then but I don't want to step on any toes so I'll leave it be if that's what you guys want. [[User:Aykrivwassup|Aykrivwassup]] ([[User talk:Aykrivwassup|talk]]) 22:50, 8 August 2018 (EDT)
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| :: He said "there are NOW 103 stages". That doesn't mean that's all we're getting, the game development wasn't finished. - [[Special:Contributions/68.190.118.39|68.190.118.39]] 04:21, 16 September 2018 (EDT)
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| :::What he said (at least in the English translation) was "the ''total'' number of stages is..." which seems pretty definitive to me. [[User:SuperFalconBros|SuperFalconBros]] ([[User talk:SuperFalconBros|talk]]) 10:21, 16 September 2018 (EDT)
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| ::::Well, there is that CoroCoro issue that states that Smash Ultimate will have 108 stages instead of the 103 the Direct promised. Whether this was a mistake or these stages were added at the last minute, we'll have to wait and see. [[User:SuperSmashTurtles|SuperSmashTurtles]] ([[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|talk]]) 23:56, 16 September 2018 (EDT)
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| :::::As far as I'm concerned, we haven't received confirmation of a final total (particularly as there's always an aspect of translation issues in non-explicit statements and different wordings in that same Direct seem to imply different things) and we should err on the side of caution. Add in the CoroCoro number being 108, and I say that until we get explicit confirmation that all the returning stages that will be in the game have been revealed, we leave the unconfirmed stages in the table with the "maybe" symbol, as it would hardly be incorrect if we were to have that and then change to "no" once confirmation is received (whereas it'd arguably be incorrect to put "no" as we don't clearly know). [[User:TheDavsto|TheDavsto]] ([[User talk:TheDavsto|talk]]) 12:38, 20 September 2018 (EDT)
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| I would agree that no stage should be marked {{n}} instead of {{indeterminate}} until the game comes out and we know for sure. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:58, 20 September 2018 (EDT)
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| == Stage selection screen ==
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| We need to add the stage selection screen to the article. [[User:Lucina-is-better-than-marth|Lucina-is-better-than-marth]] ([[User talk:Lucina-is-better-than-marth|talk]]) 12:39, November 12, 2019 (EST)
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| == "X characters are the only characters to travel to Y stage in Ultimate's Classic Mode" trivia ==
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| Is this type of trivia really worth mentioning on almost every stage page? I never really found it interesting and it gets very redundant seeing it on so many pages. I don't see any point in mentioning it unless no one uses it in their classic mode route, even for that it's only interesting if only a few stages have that distinction. <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:green;">Supα</span>]][[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:red;">Toαd</span><span style="color:blue;">64</span>]]'''</span> [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] 22:30, January 6, 2020 (EST)
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| :I agree, they aren't interesting per se, and similar edits have been removed in the past on character pages, so I don't think it should stay. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 22:32, January 6, 2020 (EST)
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| ::Probably just a false alarm, but I noticed that when I was clearing out a lot of these, most of them were done by somebody named NinTylo, who was banned a couple months ago, while they are repeatedly added back in after removal by somebody named Brooklyn50 and another user whose name I can't remember, either alts of NinTylo or hacked by him/her. [[Special:Contributions/72.203.118.154|72.203.118.154]] 01:51, January 7, 2020 (EST)
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| :::Brooklyn50 has been around longer than NinTylo so I doubt they're sockpuppets. As far as I know Brooklyn50 was the one who initially added all the trivia about characters traveling to stages in classic mode, while NinTylo added all the other unnecessary classic mode trivia, and was blocked for 6 months for doing so along with other things after multiple warnings. <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:green;">Supα</span>]][[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:red;">Toαd</span><span style="color:blue;">64</span>]]'''</span> [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] 03:36, January 7, 2020 (EST)
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| == Spirit Battles ==
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| Just wondering, should we include the various Spirit Battles for each stage appearing in SSBU? The same way each fighter from SSBU features the Spirit Battles they participate in? [[User:Autismo555|Autismo555]] ([[User talk:Autismo555|talk]]) 11:08, January 16, 2021 (EST)
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| :It's been [[Forum:Adding Spirit battle sections to stages (similar to the ones on Fighter pages)|proposed before]] and failed. I personally say "no" because I already have a hard enough time trying to keep the existing pages in line. There's 40 for series, 88 for fighters, spirits with DLC changes, Gold fighter and Giant DK for some reason, and maybe a few more plus over 70 events; adding 110+ stages to that would complicate that more. There's also no/rare mention of Classice Mode or Event matches on the stage pages, which many would argue would be more important information than spirits. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 11:23, January 16, 2021 (EST)
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| ::Honestly, didn't we kinda decide to get rid of that section on the fighter articles? If I remember right, our reasoning for the "inspiration" column on the Spirit pages was that it was the only information in the fighter section that wasn't elsewhere on the site. [[User:Ahemtoday|Ahemtoday]] ([[User talk:Ahemtoday|talk]]) 23:25, January 20, 2021 (EST)
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| :::I'm not sure, I wasn't around for any discussions. I only know of the proposal I linked and it seems to have good reasons to keep the section on fighter pages. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 23:43, January 20, 2021 (EST)
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