Editing Talk:Sandbagging

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Yeesh, this is another one that never would've even come up pre-merge. This is widely-used terminology, right up there with "[[no johns]]" and is commonly understood amongst smashers attending inter-regional tournaments. There's a good chance that if you begin to participate in the competitive community, you'll hear some story about Isai sandbagging in Singles at a tournament somewhere and if you don't know what it means, this ''should'' be the place to find out. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 19:55, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:Well, the No Johns article was deleted as well. It was a horribly-written page and now redirects to what a "john" is. I was pretty sure that it was a personal nickname from what I got from other users. I've never actually heard this term used at all, so maybe it's a regional thing? '''[[User:Silverdragon706|FyreNWater]]''' -  <small>([[User talk:Silverdragon706|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Silverdragon706|Contributions]] )</small> 20:16, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::It's certainly not regional--I'm actually quite surprised you haven't heard it ([http://smashboards.com/search.php?searchid=1369950 here's some worthwhile discussions]) but in any case, I wouldn't defend a poorly-written article. The "johns" article needs a serious once-over as well, but I think it's more important to tag them with cleanup instead of deletion. That way if this mess of a wiki ever sorts itself out, I might actually get around to polishing it again. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 21:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
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 :Well, the No Johns article was deleted as well. It was a horribly-written page and now redirects to what a "john" is. I was pretty sure that it was a personal nickname from what I got from other users. I've never actually heard this term used at all, so maybe it's a regional thing? '''[[User:Silverdragon706|FyreNWater]]''' -  <small>([[User talk:Silverdragon706|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Silverdragon706|Contributions]] )</small> 20:16, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 ::It's certainly not regional--I'm actually quite surprised you haven't heard it ([http://smashboards.com/search.php?searchid=1369950 here's some worthwhile discussions]) but in any case, I wouldn't defend a poorly-written article. The "johns" article needs a serious once-over as well, but I think it's more important to tag them with cleanup instead of deletion. That way if this mess of a wiki ever sorts itself out, I might actually get around to polishing it again. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 21:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
-Sandbagging isn't just playing poorly purposely, it's also playing in a lower division than you should, like in basketball a Div 1 player who plays Div 2 tournaments (And probably unfairly keeps winning them) is a sandbagger. - [[User:Ashran111|Ashran111]] ([[User talk:Ashran111|talk]]) 18:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
-:I've only ever known of one or two tournaments for Melee that actually separated players into divisions based on skill and I don't think there was any qualifying rounds involved, so I'm not sure that applies to smash in the same way it applies to other sports. The terminology in this context is derived from the [[Sandbag]] itself, after all. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 19:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
-::The only time I've heard this term before was in reference to wifi matches where one player doesn't touch the controller at all: hence, "Sandbag"ging. - [[User:Gargomon251|Gargomon251]] ([[User talk:Gargomon251|talk]]) 06:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
-While I've never heard the term reffered to smash, the definition given on the main page is something that I've seen in many other competitive events.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 14:25, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
-See hustling. Geez, delete this thing. '''[[User:XXXXX|<font color="Green">X</font><font color="DeepSkyBlue">X</font><font color="Green">X</font><font color="DeepSkyBlue">X</font><font color="Green">X</font>]]'''  [[User talk:XXXXX|<font color="Red">Talk to me OR ELSE!</font>]] 16:53, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
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