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:::Not really, frame data and function is different in many ways. I know combining both games in most of the articles is standard here, but for techniques like this where players need a good reference to look up this is a very bad solution. [[User:Kadano|Kadano]] ([[User talk:Kadano|talk]]) 15:03, 2 June 2013 (EDT) | :::Not really, frame data and function is different in many ways. I know combining both games in most of the articles is standard here, but for techniques like this where players need a good reference to look up this is a very bad solution. [[User:Kadano|Kadano]] ([[User talk:Kadano|talk]]) 15:03, 2 June 2013 (EDT) | ||
::::Frame data is just a different set of numbers; function is pretty much the same (press shield button just before being hit to block with no shield reduction or lag). I have a hard time believing that the differences in technicalities of the technique between the two games is enough to warrant a separate page; it's not like people will get confused or something just because the page is primarily divided into two sections. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Altruistic 16:56, 2 June 2013 (EDT) | ::::Frame data is just a different set of numbers; function is pretty much the same (press shield button just before being hit to block with no shield reduction or lag). I have a hard time believing that the differences in technicalities of the technique between the two games is enough to warrant a separate page; it's not like people will get confused or something just because the page is primarily divided into two sections. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Altruistic 16:56, 2 June 2013 (EDT) | ||
:::::Well, you don’t play competitively, do you? For those who do, it’s sometimes very important to know how exactly powershielding works. Right now, this information is pretty hard to find. Magus420 once wrote elaborate posts about it on smashboards, but the search engine there is broken and it’s not even a dedicated thread. So far I thought ssbwiki has an encyclopedic pretense, and right now this »Perfect shield« article doesn’t contain any useful information concerning Melee powershielding. To competitive players it has no value. Now of course I could include all the information about Melee’s powershielding workings here, but this would make the article cluttered and confusing to casual players. How about writing a subpage for Melee titled »Powershielding/SSBM« containing the more detailed information linked from the Melee section of the current article? | :::::Well, you don’t play competitively, do you? For those who do, it’s sometimes very important to know how exactly powershielding works. Right now, this information is pretty hard to find. Magus420 once wrote elaborate posts about it on smashboards, but the search engine there is broken and it’s not even a dedicated thread. So far I thought ssbwiki has an encyclopedic pretense, and right now this »Perfect shield« article doesn’t contain any useful information concerning Melee powershielding. To competitive players it has no value. Now of course I could include all the information about Melee’s powershielding workings here, but this would make the article cluttered and confusing to casual players. How about writing a subpage for Melee titled »Powershielding/SSBM« containing the more detailed information linked from the Melee section of the current article? | ||
::::::You can go ahead and add the data anyway. If you don't know how to make it non-confusing to non-competitive players, other people are probably open to help. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Loony 18:07, 2 June 2013 (EDT) | ::::::You can go ahead and add the data anyway. If you don't know how to make it non-confusing to non-competitive players, other people are probably open to help. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Loony 18:07, 2 June 2013 (EDT) | ||
::::::Pretty much what Toomai said, and with the sections and subsections, you can keep Melee and Brawl information separate, while still keeping it detailed and organised. If there's so much valid information that the page becomes too large (over 32K is pretty much our standard cutoff point), then yeah, splitting the page into subpages will be a valid idea. Such information should be in the article first to demonstrate the need of separate articles though. | ::::::Pretty much what Toomai said, and with the sections and subsections, you can keep Melee and Brawl information separate, while still keeping it detailed and organised. If there's so much valid information that the page becomes too large (over 32K is pretty much our standard cutoff point), then yeah, splitting the page into subpages will be a valid idea. Such information should be in the article first to demonstrate the need of separate articles though. | ||
