Editing Talk:On-screen appearance

== Old stuff ==
Are you freaking serious, Galvanic? You actually created a page about the character intro sequences of SSB seconds before DOJO revealed it to return in Brawl!? That's amazing!!! =D 

That is, if that was the truth... [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik, Lord of Universes]] 03:10, November 2, 2007 (EDT)

It was also seen on the demo for "E for All" -[[User:Enigma14|Enigma14]]

It's true. I was going to make it a while ago but I just couldn't think up a name for the article.--[[User:Galvanic|Galvanic]] 02:01, November 3, 2007 (EDT)

== Dedede ==

OK, guys, where was Dedede's On-Screen appearance confirmed? I know about that screenshot, don't worry about that, but have we gotten any official proof of that being his On-Screen appearance? - [[User:Pokemon DP|Pokemon DP]]

Technically, no, that screenshot is all we got. I am not for speculation, but it is pretty convincing to me.--[[User:Oxico|Oxico]] 07:44, December 17, 2007 (EST)
== For Real ==
We do not know PT's On-Screen Appearance. For all we know, the running-taunt thing was just that: A taunt.--[[User:Oxico|Oxico]] 11:28, January 13, 2008 (EST)
:Agree with you on that (Thought maybe PT cant taunt at all and his fighters have to do it for him).--[[User:Fandangox|Fandangox]] 11:32, January 13, 2008 (EST)

== Mr. Game and Wacth ==
Ok I have seen his entrance, but I'm not really good at english and its difficult to me to use the correct terms to exlain it, his entrance can be seen [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beK5wGtZnyQ here].--[[User:Fandangox|Fandangox]] 17:17, February 2, 2008 (EST) , June 30, 2020 

== Location ==
Can someone make sure that each one of the appearances are on each character page? Gracias.--[[User:Oxico|Oxico]] 19:29, February 2, 2008 (EST)

== Category? ==

i hardly think this fits under the "Technique" category. can someone think of a better-fitting one and change it? '''[[User:Silverdragon706|FyreNWater]]''' -  <small>([[User talk:Silverdragon706|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Silverdragon706|Contributions]] )</small> 23:42, February 8, 2008 (EST)
:Moved it to C:Characters. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] | [http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Sky2042 w]) 23:49, February 8, 2008 (EST)
:Are you doubting Sakurai's categorization methods? ^_~ --[[User:Phred|Phred]] 01:46, February 9, 2008 (EST)
::Yar! --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] | [http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Sky2042 w]) 01:50, February 9, 2008 (EST)

== Tables ==

Your welcome guys.  It certainly looks better!  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 16:55, 14 October 2008 (UTC)



== Gallery? ==

Should we include a gallery of all the on-screen appearances?  I think that might be a good thing to try. Besides, we could get a whole bunch of 'em off the DOJO. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] ([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|contribs]])</span> 03:27, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
:As long as they're big enough to be seen, but small enough to keep the tables usable.  Or were you thinking about making a gallery-type thing?  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 03:38, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
::I do mean using <nowiki><gallery></nowiki> tags. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] ([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|contribs]])</span> 03:40, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I have a blind spot every place it said "gallery."  Yeah, that would be convenient, but it may make the article a bit lengthy.  I support, as long as you deal with the length issue.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 03:47, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

== Proper noun? ==

I thought this was one.  Check the DOJO. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:59, 21 October 2010 (EDT)
:It's arguable, I think the only time the term "On-Screen Appearance" was used was in the title of the post it was described in (and would therefore be title case regardless of properness). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 19:01, 21 October 2010 (EDT)
::Hmmmmmmmm [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:02, 21 October 2010 (EDT)

== GIFs? ==

Should it be a good idea to have gifs for brawl appearances? I mean, I take their on-screen appearances, save it as a gif, then import it here (or on another page)? [[User:Airconny|<font color="blue">'''Airconny'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Airconny|talk]]) 20:10, 28 February 2013 (EST)
:You talking about the animated ones? Cause I think that would be fine. Except since there are a few photos and not animated GIFs the photos might be unnecessary. <span style="font-family:Impact">''[[User:Brawls of fury|<span style="color:#CC5500">BRAWLS</span>]] [[File:BoFSig.png|19px|That's me]] OF [[File:BoFSig.png|19px|That's me]][[User talk:Brawls of fury|<span style="color:#8A3324">FURY</span>]]''</span> 20:30, 28 February 2013 (EST)
::Yeah the animated ones. So we can see how they enter more visually and stuff. Wait, you mean the screenshots on the page are unnecessary or do you mean the gifs? [[User:Airconny|<font color="blue">'''Airconny'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Airconny|talk]]) 20:33, 28 February 2013 (EST)
:::The screenshots onthe page would be unnecessary since GIFs show more. <span style="font-family:Impact">''[[User:Brawls of fury|<span style="color:#CC5500">BRAWLS</span>]] [[File:BoFSig.png|19px|That's me]] OF [[File:BoFSig.png|19px|That's me]][[User talk:Brawls of fury|<span style="color:#8A3324">FURY</span>]]''</span> 20:37, 28 February 2013 (EST)
::::Oh, okay, it was the wording that confused me. I'll get started on it soon, as I also have to finish the unlockables page, too. But, I'll get one up to test to see. '''UPDATE''': Is this suitable? This one. [[User:Airconny|<font color="blue">'''Airconny'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Airconny|talk]]) 20:42, 28 February 2013 (EST)
:::::Looks good. <span style="font-family:Impact">''[[User:Brawls of fury|<span style="color:#CC5500">BRAWLS</span>]] [[File:BoFSig.png|19px|That's me]] OF [[File:BoFSig.png|19px|That's me]][[User talk:Brawls of fury|<span style="color:#8A3324">FURY</span>]]''</span> 21:08, 28 February 2013 (EST)
::::::Thanks, but it needs compression. That files size is '''''5.99''''' megabytes. That's more than any image I ''ever'' uploaded. Sadly, I do not know how to compress a .gif. But, overall, I'll still add it.[[User:Airconny|<font color="blue">'''Airconny'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Airconny|talk]]) 21:12, 28 February 2013 (EST)

== About the GIFs ==

Don't know if this is the best place for this, but I was curious as to how you were able to obtain the gifs for the on-screen appearances in Brawl, with just the one character and no computer players. That's pretty much it. [[User:73MPL4R|73MPL4R]] ([[User talk:73MPL4R|talk]]) 19:59, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
:Chances are hacks were used. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Emissary 20:39, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

== Anyone know why Melee removed these. and if so, could you please add it to the article? ==

Just wondering. [[Special:Contributions/31.50.6.246|31.50.6.246]] 04:24, 3 September 2014 (EDT)

:That's the thing, no one really know why. [[User:Aidanzapunk|Aidan the Intermediate Gamer]] ([[User talk:Aidanzapunk|talk]]) 22:28, 20 September 2014 (EDT)

== What does Little Mac do when he's selected with the sweatshirt costume? ==

His on-screen appearance involves him stripping it and throwing it into the air, but what does he do when it's his actual costume? <font face="X-Files">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 19:29, 20 September 2014 (EDT)

:If I'm going to be completely honest...I would like to know this myself. [[User:Aidanzapunk|Aidan the Intermediate Gamer]] ([[User talk:Aidanzapunk|talk]]) 22:28, 20 September 2014 (EDT)

::I don't think they're going to change it, they didn't change Alph's intro to feature the Drake. It might actually be funny to see him strip off the hoodie and have another hoodie underneath... :P '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 22:30, 20 September 2014 (EDT)

:I own the Japanese game myself, and it seems that Little Mac uses the same exact animation regardless of the costume. The only difference with the sweatshirt costume seems to be simply: '''he does not take the sweatshirt off'''. - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 22:54, 20 September 2014 (EDT)

== Shouldn't Little Mac's gif include the costume that wears it for the battle? ==

Mostly because it's different from the other palettes. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:37, 6 March 2016 (EST)

I don't get what you're saying, if you're suggesting that Little Mac's should have him be wearing the pink sweatshirt costume, no, because that's redundant as he performs the same animation except he doesn't throw off his sweatshirt. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 18:41, 6 March 2016 (EST)

It's not exactly redundant if it's different. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 18:42, 6 March 2016 (EST)
:Ehhh...nah, I don't think this is too necessary. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:46, 6 March 2016 (EST)

It's the exact same animation minus the sweatshirt being thrown off. There's no need for it. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 18:47, 6 March 2016 (EST)

== Making a chart for the Ultimate demo characters ==

I was wondering; why don't we make the chart for the characters in the Ultimate demo and the ones that were not, but had them shown? I just wanted to ask before I did anything. [[File:SSB4DarkSonicHead.png|17px|link=User:SonicSpeed48]][[User talk:SonicSpeed48|<font color="navyblue">''Speed'''''48'''</font>]] 22:20, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

== GIF or WebM ==

After working on the gifs for ''Ultimate'' I noticed that the wiki supports webm. After playing with some ffmpeg settings I was able to get a webm that is 60 fps instead of 15 fps and with a filesize of 839 KB instead of 3.92 MB, an 80% reduction with 4 times the frame rate ([https://imgur.com/a/K3V6iga Mii Gunner example] compared to [[:File:GunnerOnScreenAppearanceSSBU.gif]], imgur turns it into an mp4 but it doesn't change much). Would this be something to consider doing? With 82 gifs for ''Ultimate'' at about 4 MB each, that is over 300 MB to load. The only complication I can think of (other than effort) would be compatibility issues with older browsers. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 12:54, May 27, 2020 (EDT)
:On my user page I've uploaded a WebM version of Mii Gunner's appearance to compare it to the GIF version. Unfortunately the wiki doesn't support VP9 and I've had to use VP8, the latter having wider browser support but doesn't encode as efficiently, leading to a slightly larger size than stated above. I've listed some pros and cons of the format as well but I will let others judge if it is worth it. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 21:32, July 12, 2020 (EDT)

== Creation of subpages ==

This comes from a reason similar to the above point of discussion. Personally, I disagree with it, having a preference for the current gifs higher amounts of frames and quality than if converted. But I do agree that the page is unnecesarily too heavy. ''Ultimate'' alone has 83 gifs, and ''for Wii U'' still has 58 gifs, ''Brawl'' has 39 and ''64'' has 12. It takes too long to load for anyone that comes by, and looks more disorganized than it should. That's why I suggest we split the page into categories per game, just like the [[taunt]]s, [[idle pose]]s and [[victory pose]]s page do.

Only consequence from this would be that ''Melee'' would be the only game left without a page, but considering all the characters have the same entrance in that game, I consider it not big of a loss it just be given its own section in the article, unless someone was willing to record all the characters entrances from there. [[User:DigitalHazard|DigitalHazard]] ([[User talk:DigitalHazard|talk]]) 01:50, June 30, 2020 (CST)
:I'll '''support''' splitting by game. I'm having a little trouble understanding your disagreement with the above discussion. Do you mind expanding on it a bit? --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 16:43, July 1, 2020 (EDT)
::Looking back at it, I admit it was some confusion and misinterpretation from my part due to the example you provided being a mp4 via imgur, which tends to compress gifs into lower quality videos. [[User:DigitalHazard|DigitalHazard]] ([[User talk:DigitalHazard|talk]]) 11:58, July 4, 2020 (CST)
:'''Support''' for consistency with the rest of the wiki, though I also wouldn't mind if the page instead received sections for each character akin to the [[alternate costume]] pages. IDK how the wiki handles image loading in folded sections, but it may help the problem w/o requiring a split. [[User:B2jammer|b2jammer]] ([[User talk:B2jammer|talk]]) 20:22, July 4, 2020 (EDT)
::I support a split per game, and also support switching to webms if possible; in my mind, the ideal method would be to re-record each one with webm rather than convert the existing gifs, which might take a while but would result in higher quality. The two combined would probably save a lot of space. ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 20:29, July 4, 2020 (EDT)
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