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== Freeze frames explanation ==
== Freeze frames explanation ==


This is not merely a result of the higher or lower sustained damage, as can be told by two observations. Firstly, Shulk will be in SHS for a different amount of time than the attacker, despite the fact that a simple damage increase substituted into the formula would not have this affect. Secondly, the smash art also affects the amount of freeze frames Shulk sustains, even though it has no effect on sustained damage (which is what normally determines freeze frames). [[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex the weeb'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]] 07:05, 8 July 2017 (EDT)
This is not merely a result of the higher or lower sustained damage, as can be told by two observations. Firstly, Shulk will be in SHS for a different amount of time than the attacker, despite the fact that a simple damage increase substituted into the formula would not have this affect. Secondly, the smash art also affects the amount of freeze frames Shulk sustains, even though it has no effect on sustained damage (which is what normally determines freeze frames). [[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex Parpotta'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]] 07:05, 8 July 2017 (EDT)


:As the one who keeps this page in check, could you simplify that explanation? Because I haven't seen the term "Sustained Damage" anywhere else, and do not understand what you are trying to explain. Do you mean hitstun? [[User:Archrelico|Archrelico]] ([[User talk:Archrelico|talk]]) 12:39, 8 July 2017 (EDT)
:As the one who keeps this page in check, could you simplify that explanation? Because I haven't seen the term "Sustained Damage" anywhere else, and do not understand what you are trying to explain. Do you mean hitstun? [[User:Archrelico|Archrelico]] ([[User talk:Archrelico|talk]]) 12:39, 8 July 2017 (EDT)
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== The Monado Arts tech pages are a bit much, can we merge them? ==
== The Monado Arts tech pages are a bit much, can we merge them? ==


Back in March of this year, Omega Tyrant rightfully brought up the unnecessary Crownerang tech pages, see [[Talk:Crownerang|here]]. Two solutions were brought up; a Crownerang/Techniques page, or merging them all to the page itself. I agree with much of the arguments presented and have since looked into the idea of merging other stranded tech pages with their respective special moves, as it does certainly make it a bit difficult to navigate.
Back in March of this year, Omega Tyrant rightfully brought up the unnecessary Crownerang tech pages, see [[Talk:Crownerang|here]]. Two solutions were brought up; a Crownerang/Techniques page, or merging them all to the page itself. I see a similar issue with Monado Arts, and it's arguably worse given the complex acronyms some of these use which makes it hard for the uninitiated to read without having multiple tabs up. In other words, the issue here is that the information is quite scattered and difficult to follow, much like the problems the Crownerang techniques had. Some pages don't even have the full list of techniques in "see also", and some like Monado Art Landing Lag Cancel imply the need for other techniques, as well as have abbreviations without prior unabbreviation, it's all very difficult to follow. Unifying these with more precise explanations would make everything much easier to work with.  
 
I see the same issue Crownerang had when looking at Monado Arts tech, and it's arguably worse. There are multiple complex acronyms some of these use — some of which are cited without prior unabbreviation — which makes it hard for the uninitiated to read without having multiple tabs up. In other words, the issue here is that the information is quite scattered and difficult to follow, much like the problems the Crownerang techniques had. Some pages don't even have the full list of techniques in "see also", and some like Monado Art Landing Lag Cancel imply the need for other techniques, it's all very difficult to follow. Unifying these with more precise explanations would make everything much easier to work with.  


So, the proposal here is essentially "merge the tech pages, give them all a cleanup while you're at it".  
So, the proposal here is essentially "merge the tech pages, give them all a cleanup while you're at it".  

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