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==Technique for Wario== | ==Technique for Wario== | ||
I found a special move that wario can use to negate all horizontal and vertical momentum but i am not sure if it would count as a special move because of the circumstances that need to take place, or if he could make it back to the stage at all. The move is his side B when his bike is already out on the stage. The move is pretty much instant and results in a lot of ending lag which could make wario recovering back onto the stage a problem, i only wanted to point this out because there is currently no special move that wario can use effectivly to stop his momentum and i wanted to see if someone who can test if this is an effective move, like Omega Tyrant or someone else, could and then possibly add it to the graph--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy. | I found a special move that wario can use to negate all horizontal and vertical momentum but i am not sure if it would count as a special move because of the circumstances that need to take place, or if he could make it back to the stage at all. The move is his side B when his bike is already out on the stage. The move is pretty much instant and results in a lot of ending lag which could make wario recovering back onto the stage a problem, i only wanted to point this out because there is currently no special move that wario can use effectivly to stop his momentum and i wanted to see if someone who can test if this is an effective move, like Omega Tyrant or someone else, could and then possibly add it to the graph--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif ]] 23:09, 22 November 2010 (EST) | ||
:Hmm, I haven't tested it without the bike as I assumed it wouldn't do anything. When I finish putting up my Meteor smash chart, I'll test it out and provide the results if it works. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 23:17, 22 November 2010 (EST) | :Hmm, I haven't tested it without the bike as I assumed it wouldn't do anything. When I finish putting up my Meteor smash chart, I'll test it out and provide the results if it works. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 23:17, 22 November 2010 (EST) | ||
::Sweet, thanks--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy. | ::Sweet, thanks--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif ]] 03:11, 23 November 2010 (EST) | ||
:::I tested this, and unfortunately, it yielded no positive results. When I used Wario's forward B without accessibility to the bike, it failed to negate any momentum. When I used this move in conjunction with his fair, he was still KO'd vertically at 159%, KO'd horizontally with no DI at 160%, and KO'd at 184% with DI. So unless you forgot to mention something, Wario players will still have to almost rely solely on DI to survive longer. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 04:45, 24 November 2010 (EST) | :::I tested this, and unfortunately, it yielded no positive results. When I used Wario's forward B without accessibility to the bike, it failed to negate any momentum. When I used this move in conjunction with his fair, he was still KO'd vertically at 159%, KO'd horizontally with no DI at 160%, and KO'd at 184% with DI. So unless you forgot to mention something, Wario players will still have to almost rely solely on DI to survive longer. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 04:45, 24 November 2010 (EST) | ||
::::OK, well thanks for giving it a go anyway--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy. | ::::OK, well thanks for giving it a go anyway--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif ]] 05:39, 24 November 2010 (EST) | ||
:Wario's best momentum cancel technique is Wario's f-air as it is his quickest aerial and it also pushes wario slightly to the direction of the stage. The reason why people usually use the bike afterwards is that it is usually allows Wario to go higher in the air in order to escape danger. (except for somewhat MK and Marth as both of these characters just overpower Wario when he gets in the air and a Wario without a double jump is dead vs MK). if the opponent is using a meteor, people usually jump and either Fart (if it is built up past 1 minute) or bike --[[User:KoRoBeNiKi|LoS PPS KoRos]] ([[User talk:KoRoBeNiKi|talk]]) 13:06, 24 November 2010 (EST) | :Wario's best momentum cancel technique is Wario's f-air as it is his quickest aerial and it also pushes wario slightly to the direction of the stage. The reason why people usually use the bike afterwards is that it is usually allows Wario to go higher in the air in order to escape danger. (except for somewhat MK and Marth as both of these characters just overpower Wario when he gets in the air and a Wario without a double jump is dead vs MK). if the opponent is using a meteor, people usually jump and either Fart (if it is built up past 1 minute) or bike --[[User:KoRoBeNiKi|LoS PPS KoRos]] ([[User talk:KoRoBeNiKi|talk]]) 13:06, 24 November 2010 (EST) | ||
