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== Greninja is male in Ultimate ==
== Greninja is male in Ultimate ==


Because Greninja's Final Smash incorporates Ash-Greninja, that means the Greninja seen in Ultimate is male. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_gender_ratio As you can see on this Bulbapedia page], Ash-Greninja is always male, due to being an event Pokemon based on the Greninja Ash has in the X and Y anime. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Hinata2000100|Hinata2000100]] ([[User talk:Hinata2000100|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hinata2000100|contribs]]) 18:48, October 14, 2018</small>
Because Greninja's Final Smash incorporates Ash-Greninja, that means the Greninja seen in Ultimate is male. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_gender_ratio As you can see on this Bulbapedia page], Ash-Greninja is always male, due to being an event Pokemon based on the Greninja Ash has in the X and Y anime. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Hinata2000100|Hinata2000100]] ([[User talk:Hinata2000100|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Hinata2000100|contribs]]) 18:48, October 14, 2018‎</small>
:The reason the pronoun is "it" and not "he" is most likely to keep everything safe, like all the other Pokemon and Sheik. Personally, I think we should leave it ambiguous until concrete evidence that Smash Greninja is male. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 19:06, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
:The reason the pronoun is "it" and not "he" is most likely to keep everything safe, like all the other Pokemon and Sheik. Personally, I think we should leave it ambiguous until concrete evidence that Smash Greninja is male. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 19:06, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
::While I think acknowledgement of Greninja's sex in the trivia section is perfectly fine, I think the pronouns used in the article should still be "it". It is standard to refer to Pokemon as "it", even if the sex of an individual is known. For example, Ash's Pikachu in the anime is definitively male, but it is consistently referred to as "it" instead of "he". Since the introduction of gendered Pikachus in Generation IV, it could be argued that the Pikachu in ''Smash'' has been male since ''Brawl'', but we never switched to using masculine pronouns. I see no reason to switch to them now for Greninja. [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 19:26, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
::While I think acknowledgement of Greninja's sex in the trivia section is perfectly fine, I think the pronouns used in the article should still be "it". It is standard to refer to Pokemon as "it", even if the sex of an individual is known. For example, Ash's Pikachu in the anime is definitively male, but it is consistently referred to as "it" instead of "he". Since the introduction of gendered Pikachus in Generation IV, it could be argued that the Pikachu in ''Smash'' has been male since ''Brawl'', but we never switched to using masculine pronouns. I see no reason to switch to them now for Greninja. [[User:Nintendo101|Nintendo101]] ([[User talk:Nintendo101|talk]]) 19:26, 14 October 2018 (EDT)

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