Editing Talk:Downloadable content (SSBU)

==Protection?==
It seems like this page has been vandalized quite a bit recently by multiple different IPs. Should the page be put under semi-protection as for now? [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 10:09, November 4, 2019 (EST)

I don't know why those IPs always do that? [[User:Lucina-is-better-than-marth|Lucina-is-better-than-marth]] ([[User talk:Lucina-is-better-than-marth|talk]]) 09:39, January 14, 2020 (EST)

Lucina-is-better-than-Marth I think it could be because they all seem to want characters that are either already present in some caliber or are simply impossible/inane, such as Waluigi, Shadow, Sora(which might be impossible thanks to Square Enix's character restraints), and for some reason, a Tetrimino [[User:JustSomeCloudMain|JustSomeCloudMain]] ([[User talk:JustSomeCloudMain|talk]]) 18:57, May 20, 2020 (EDT)

I actually think it should be semi-protected. Since IPs can freely edit this page and easily put false info on it, then perhaps it's dangerous to leave it unprotected from IPs. [[User:Son Daniel|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:red;">SonDaniel</span>]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead1.png|20px]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Son Daniel|talk page]]) 21:23, May 20, 2020 (EDT)

...Well seeing as this was reopened I would say that semi-protecting this would be a smart idea since yes IPs are constantly adding blantly false info, but at the same time so far it's only 1 IP that keeps doing this so it may be better just to block the IP (in fact it is currently blocked right now). If more IPs come and vandalize this then yes it needs semi protection, at least until all DLC is released. [[File:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #18F">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd64</font>]] • [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<small><font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font></small>]]'''</span> 21:26, May 20, 2020 (EDT)

:Wait, which IP was that? [[User:Son Daniel|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:red;">SonDaniel</span>]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead1.png|20px]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Son Daniel|talk page]]) 00:05, May 21, 2020 (EDT)

::I'd rather not blatantly mention since [[SW:QDV|we're not supposed to give vandals attention]]. You can check the revision history to see. [[File:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #18F">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd64</font>]] • [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<small><font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font></small>]]'''</span> 00:22, May 21, 2020 (EDT)

Blatant vandalism is always the problem on this page. either establish protect, semi-protect, or protect this page to make vandalism less clear. But here is the problem, I am leaning to support the protction but my suggestion is to fully protect the page so only the Admins or higher can edit this page. I said this because even the fact that the IP people vandalize this page, Some Autoconfirmed or Established users vandalize this frickin page too. So I think for the sake of this wiki's lifespan, I want this to be Fully-Protected for this thing. [[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:Blue;">S3AHAWK</span>]][[File:S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.png|20px]][[File:S3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:S3AHAWK|''<span style="color: Red;">talk</span>'']]) 00:35, May 21, 2020 (EDT)
:[[SW:PROTECT]]: Protecting it to be edited by only admins is not going to happen. Full protection is for:
*Protecting important pages that are highly vandalized, such as the [[Main Page]] on large wikis.
*Maintaining the integrity of the [[:Image:Wiki.png|site's logo]] and favicon.
*Protecting the interface and system messages in the MediaWiki namespace (these are protected automatically).
*Deleted pages that are continually recreated
:If autoconfirmed and established users have vandalized this before it hasn't happened in a long time. Should this page be protected it's going to be either autoconfirmed or established level, yet even established may be too high unless an autoconfirmed user vandalizes it, which seems unlikely. As someone who intends to become an admin here, yes it is reasonable for this page to be protected, but full protection is not happening. [[File:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #18F">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd64</font>]] • [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<small><font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font></small>]]'''</span> 00:49, May 21, 2020 (EDT)
::Ok, Well then, I'd say this should be either auto or established protected. [[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:Blue;">S3AHAWK</span>]][[File:S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.png|20px]][[File:S3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:S3AHAWK|''<span style="color: Red;">talk</span>'']]) 00:51, May 21, 2020 (EDT)


I am also in favour of full-fat protection,  because edit warfare is starting to get boring and IP users sometimes remove all the content and replace it with either a dead meme, provacative commentary, or both. Also, a quick question if I may: are deleted pages that are continually recreated an actual problem on this wiki? If so, could soneone give me an example or something?(this was by JustSomeCloudMain, I forgot to sign it)[[User:JustSomeCloudMain|JustSomeCloudMain]] ([[User talk:JustSomeCloudMain|talk]]) 22:37, May 21, 2020 (EDT)

Come to think of it, I cannot find any way to edit my OWN USER PAGE! (Reason being I cannot see the little edit button, and I think a protection mishap is to blame). If I tap the spot where the thing should be, nothing happens. The help pages are too broad to be of use either, so if anyone thinks they know a remedy for this or perhaps a reason why it is happening, I will have a section on my talk page for these. [[User:JustSomeCloudMain|JustSomeCloudMain]] ([[User talk:JustSomeCloudMain|talk]]) 18:24, May 24, 2020 (EDT)
:That is because you need to be [[SW:AUTO|Autoconfirmed]] in order to make a page, which unfortunately includes your user page. Once you meet the Autoconfirm criteria you should be able to make your user page. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 18:29, May 24, 2020 (EDT)
::Oh, that makes sense. They should have a beginners manual for new users. [[User:JustSomeCloudMain|JustSomeCloudMain]] ([[User talk:JustSomeCloudMain|talk]]) 18:33, May 24, 2020 (EDT)
:::Right now [[SW:FIRST|this page]] is what you can use as a beginners guide. It gives a general description of some of the policies and you can check out the policy/guide pages that are linked there and in the navigation box for more details. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 18:47, May 24, 2020 (EDT)

==Split the series subsection into free updates and challenger packs==
The subsection is getting pretty crowded, and half of the problem is that the free DLC spirits are mixed in with the paid ones. [[Special:Contributions/72.203.118.154|72.203.118.154]] 15:07, March 15, 2020 (EDT)

== Coronavirus ==

Didn’t Sakurai mention that everything is postponed due to the Coronavirus, potentially including FP2? If he did, should we mention it on the page? [[User:Pratikmii03|Pratikmii03]] ([[User talk:Pratikmii03|talk]]) 12:26, March 21, 2020 (EDT)

I think he did, but don't mention it. That happening will trigger this: 

Disliking of Joker (student), Inkling (fifth variation), Meta Knight (Galacta and Dark variant), and Kirby (eighth coloring) (all me). [[User:Unsaid12|Unsaid12]] ([[User talk:Unsaid12|talk]]) 17:30, June 8, 2020 (EDT)Unsaid12
:[[SW:TALK|This really isn't a good use of a talk page]]. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer</span>]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 20:07, June 8, 2020 (EDT)

== Mii Fighter costume trivia?? ==

Hi smash wiki. I was just wondering if we can add mii costume reveal trailer facts or general facts about each of the mii fighter costumes????? [[User:S3AHAWK|S3AHAWK]] ([[User talk:S3AHAWK|talk]]) 15:06, April 18, 2020 (EDT)
:Most of those are/should be on their respective pages. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 15:34, April 18, 2020 (EDT)

==Split page==
I support this suggestion, so here’s what I can do to split it: split the page into several pages, one for fighters, one for spirits, and one for mii costumes. The current page will be a redirect. Let me know if anybody has other suggestions. [[User:Son Daniel|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:red;">SonDaniel</span>]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead1.png|20px]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Son Daniel|talk page]]) 15:42, April 25, 2020 (EDT)
:I think just splitting the Spirits off of the page would work. They take up almost half of the page both in length and bytes. Perhaps make a subpage, "Downloadable content (SSBU)/Spirits". If people really want to make a distinction between free and paid DLC Spirits then the page can have all of the event/gift Spirits with a link to [[DLC Spirits (mode)]]. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User_talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 16:01, April 25, 2020 (EDT)
::Hmm. Good idea! Do you think we a consensus for the split to happen? [[User:Son Daniel|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:red;">SonDaniel</span>]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead1.png|20px]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Son Daniel|talk page]]) 18:03, April 25, 2020 (EDT)
:::I'd say so. It is a proposal of sorts and it is a 33+k bytes to move. Some people may object and some others may have different, maybe better ideas. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 18:11, April 25, 2020 (EDT)
::::Put my '''support''' down for the "Downloadable content (SSBU)/Spirits" plan. [[User:Ahemtoday|Ahemtoday]] ([[User talk:Ahemtoday|talk]]) 21:48, April 29, 2020 (EDT)
::I '''support''' this idea. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer</span>]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 18:35, April 25, 2020 (EDT)
:::I also '''support''' this split. - [[User:Mega Mario Man|Mega Mario Man]] ([[User talk:Mega Mario Man|talk]]) 20:11, April 25, 2020 (EDT)
::::I support this idea but in a different way, I think all the spirits that are added post launch should be added on their own page so the page can be added, but I also support the idea of splitting the paid and free DLC spirits but either way I doubt you would care of the first option. [[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:Blue;">S3AHAWK</span>]][[File:S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.png|20px]][[File:S3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:S3AHAWK|Talk]]) 20:14, April 25, 2020 (EDT)
:::::Are you suggesting a completely separate page or as a subpage as mentioned in my original comment? Not many people have said which option they support, so having a vote for a specific option would help narrow down what we end up doing. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 20:24, April 25, 2020 (EDT)
::::::I a suggesting to split the spirits to a completely separate page in a redrict.[[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:Blue;">S3AHAWK</span>]][[File:S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.png|20px]][[File:S3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:S3AHAWK|Talk]]) 20:33, April 25, 2020 (EDT)
:::::::I agree as well, it will save a lot of stress and navigating.--[[User:Jacob9594|Jacob9594]] ([[User talk:Jacob9594|talk]]) 21:57, April 29, 2020 (EDT)

It seems there is a good amount of support for a split in general. The issue now is how to handle it. There are about 3 for a subpage (myself, Son Daniel, Ahemtoday) and about 2 for a new page (S3AHAWK and Jacob9594), I'm not sure which options the other users prefer as "new page" wasn't suggested as an option when they voted. Going to wait for more responses to see which is preferred. Will also need a name for the new page if that is decided. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 22:09, April 29, 2020 (EDT)
:If we are going to make a new page, I suggest copying the source of the spirits, and make a new page with new info about the DLC spirits. [[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:Blue;">S3AHAWK</span>]][[File:S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.png|20px]][[File:S3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:S3AHAWK|''<span style="color: Red;">talk</span>'']]) 17:17, May 5, 2020 (EDT)
::Seems I'm a bit late to the party, but I think that creating a subpage is the best course of action here. I don't think that a new page with the Spirits table would need a lot of new information to be added. At its bare minimum, simply holding the table would still fulfill the base function of basically halving the page count and improving navigation. Besides, being that the table would be a subpage of the downloadable content article, that in itself takes care of pretty much all associated contextualization. [[User:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:blue">'''Acgamer28'''</span>]] 14:18, May 8, 2020 (EDT)

So, uhh, has a consensus been reached? [[User:Son Daniel|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:red;">SonDaniel</span>]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead1.png|20px]][[File:SonDanielSignatureHead2.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Son Daniel|talk page]]) 14:25, May 25, 2020 (EDT)
:Lets wait for a bit. [[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:Red;">''S3AHAWK said''</span>]] [[User talk:S3AHAWK|''<span style=" font-family: Arial;color: Red;">ketchup won</span>'']][[File:Ketchup.png|20px]][[File:KetchupJoker.png|20px]] 15:28, May 25, 2020 (EDT)
::You know, they should have split the page long ago if they had reached a consensus. I am not interested in long waits. [[User:JustSomeCloudMain|JustSomeCloudMain]] ([[User talk:JustSomeCloudMain|talk]]) 16:19, May 25, 2020 (EDT)
:::Yes, there is a consensus that the page should be split. The issue and why I have been holding off on moving forward is because there is conflict on ''how'' to split. The options are a subpage or a completely new page, neither has had overwhelming support, though I think the subpage idea has a couple more users backing it. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 16:59, May 25, 2020 (EDT)
::::I don't see the benefit in having a new page. A subpage is a much more practical solution, and is reasonable considering the nature of what we're splitting off and how it relates to the topic of its parent article. Besides, if it's taken this long for any other users to provide any input on this proposal, I think our current votes are as good as we'll get for a while. I say we move ahead with it. [[User:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:blue">'''Acgamer'''</span>]][[User talk:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:red">'''28'''</span>]][[File:Acgamer28SignatureHead.png|20px]] 17:04, May 25, 2020 (EDT)
:::::Alright, then I'll make a page. [[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:Red;">''S3AHAWK said''</span>]] [[User talk:S3AHAWK|''<span style=" font-family: Arial;color: Red;">ketchup won</span>'']][[File:Ketchup.png|20px]][[File:KetchupJoker.png|20px]] 17:46, May 25, 2020 (EDT)

== Polish prices? ==

I'm from Poland, Nintendo eShop supports polish currency (zł). I don't know i'm gonna adding polish prices to the label? --[[User:CrazyUberEngineer|CrazyUberEngineer]] ([[User talk:CrazyUberEngineer|talk]]) 05:53, June 1, 2020 (EDT)
:...I'm assuming you're asking to put the Polish prices in the pricing section? If you know the prices of all of them I see no problem with adding it in. [[File:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #18F">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd64</font>]] • [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<small><font color="springgreen">the Best Kαrter</font></small>]]'''</span> 06:06, June 1, 2020 (EDT)

== misspelling ==

The track "Sparring Ring" is misspelled as "Sparing Ring" under Min Min's section. [[Special:Contributions/162.205.41.141|162.205.41.141]] 16:09, June 22, 2020 (EDT)
:Fixed, thank you IP chad [[User:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:blue">'''Acgamer'''</span>]][[User talk:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:red">'''28'''</span>]][[File:Acgamer28SignatureHead.png|20px]] 17:35, June 22, 2020 (EDT)

== DLC Pack 2 russian price ==

Hey, I just saw that russian price for FP2 listed here is 3 times more expensive than real price. As you can see by this page https://www.nintendo.ru/-/Nintendo-Switch/Super-Smash-Bros-Ultimate-1395713.html#Fighters_Pass_Vol__2 real price is 2249 RUB. Since this page is protected, please correct this information. Also the digital version of the game costs 5249 RUB, so the cost of base game and all dlcs is 9748 RUB, so please add this info as well. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Alxtrbl|Alxtrbl]] ([[User talk:Alxtrbl|talk]]) 03:05, June 23, 2020 (EDT)

== Specify Remixes ==

Should we put songs that are Smash Remixes in bold italics? [[User:Diddy Kongstar|Diddy Kongstar]] ([[User talk:Diddy Kongstar|talk]]) 21:25, June 24, 2020 (EDT)

== Mash Sections? ==

Do you think it would be possible to mash everything onto the charts, including descriptions of the characters and stages, as well as adding the waves of Mii Costumes that release simultaneously with each pack. Here's an example:
{|class="wikitable sortable" style="width:100%;"
|-
!style="width:5%"| Pack No.
!style="width:20%"| Fighter
!style="width:20%"| Stage
!style="width:5%"| Universe
!style="width:15%"| Songs
!style="width:15%"| Spirits
!style="width:15%"| Mii Fighter costumes
!style="width:5%"| Release date
|-
|rowspan=2|'''1'''
|<center>[[File:Joker SSBU.png|108x108px]]<br>{{SSBU|Joker}}</center>
|<center>[[File:SSBU-Mementos.jpg|x108px]]<br>[[Mementos]]</center>
|rowspan=2|{{symbol|persona|16px}} {{uv|Persona}}
|rowspan=2|
*''{{SSBUMusicLink|Persona|Last Surprise}}''
*'''''{{SSBUMusicLink|Persona|Beneath the Mask}}'''''
*''{{SSBUMusicLink|Persona|Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There}}''
*''{{SSBUMusicLink|Persona|Rivers In The Desert}}''
*''{{SSBUMusicLink|Persona|Our Beginning}}''
*''{{SSBUMusicLink|Persona|Reach Out To The Truth}}''
*'''''{{SSBUMusicLink|Persona|I'll Face Myself}}'''''
*''{{SSBUMusicLink|Persona|Time To Make History}}''
*''{{SSBUMusicLink|Persona|Mass Destruction}}''
*''{{SSBUMusicLink|Persona|Battle Hymn of the Soul}}''
*'''''{{SSBUMusicLink|Persona|Aria of the Soul}}'''''
|rowspan=2|
*'''Joker (Phantom Thief)'''
*'''Joker (Student)'''
*Phantom Thieves of Hearts
*Igor
*Caroline & Justine
*[[Morgana]]
*[[Ryuji Sakamoto]]
*[[Ann Takamaki]]
*[[Yusuke Kitagawa]]
*[[Makoto Niijima]]
*[[Futaba Sakura]]
*[[Haru Okumura]]
*Goro Akechi
|rowspan=2|
*[[Morgana]] (headgear)
*[[Protagonist (Persona 4)|Persona 4 Protagonist]] (Swordfighter)
*[[Teddie]] (headgear)
*[[Protagonist (Persona 3)|Persona 3 Protagonist]] (Swordfighter)
*[[Tails]] (Gunner)
*[[Knuckles]] (Brawler)
|rowspan=2|April 17, 2019
|-
|Newcomer [[Joker]] from ''Persona 5'' was announced as the second DLC fighter during {{s|wikipedia|The Game Awards 2018}} on December 6th, 2018. He is the first playable character included with the Fighters Pass Vol. 1. As part of Challenger Pack 1, his accompanying stage is [[Mementos]], and features music from ''Persona 5'' as well as ''Persona 4'', ''Persona 3'', and the original ''Revelations: Persona''.
|Mementos comes as a set with {{SSBU|Joker}} as part of Challenger Pack 1. Mementos has one main platform with a slant in the middle similar to [[Meta Crystal]], with one platform over the center and another over the left side. Trains periodically appear in the background, the set below the stage being able to damage fighters. Occasionally, a large triangle-shaped wall appears at the top or on the sides of the stage. The trains and the walls will never appear at the same time.If a song from ''Persona 3'' or ''Persona 4'' is playing during a match, the color scheme of Mementos will change from red to blue or yellow respectively, the respective primary colors for each game. The decoration in the background also changes to either a moon or the streaks found in ''Persona 4''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> UI. If Joker wins a match with the alternate music, the victory pose screen and subsequent music change accordingly to the ones found in the home series.
|}
I'm just saying it could simplify the page if we mashed everything into one. [[User:Pratikmii03|Pratikmii03]] ([[User talk:Pratikmii03|talk]]) 08:35, July 9, 2020 (EDT)

== Release date for Steve (but also previous releases) ==

The article states that the release date will be October 13th, but this is the release date in Americas. In the rest of the world it'll be October 14th. The release will likely be specifically at 2020-10-14 00:00 UTC according to people I've talked to, and calculating the release window: [https://twitter.com/Liggliluff/status/1312435729297940481 as done in this Tweet], a midnight UTC release seems to be very likely. [[User:Liggliluff|Liggliluff]] ([[User talk:Liggliluff|talk]]) 19:40, October 5, 2020 (EDT)
:The wiki does default to American time for dates unless it involves a specific localized event (for example, a tournament). Though I agree something should be probably done when it comes to the UTC times. ~ [[User:Serena Strawberry|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Serena Strawberry'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Serena Strawberry|talk]]) 19:49, October 5, 2020 (EDT)

== Next fighter ==

Who do you think it would be? Maybe Crash Bandicoot? [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 13:51, December 10, 2020 (EST)
:May we have to remind you yet again that [[SW:TALK|this is not what talk pages are for]]? [[File:SmashTurtlesSig1.png|20px]][[User:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: green;">'''SuperSmashTurtles'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: lightgreen;">'''Turtle Tribe'''</span>]][[File:SmashTurtlesSig2.png|20px]] 13:59, December 10, 2020 (EST)

== Fighter's pass Vol. 2 "Final" citation ==

I linked someone to [[Downloadable_content_(SSBU)#cite_note-7|this citation]] on reddit because he was asking for a source when someone else claimed that FP2 would be the final DLC. I couldn't find the full translation that the article mentioned though. This guy says that he had previously read the fully translated article, and that he recalls that it did NOT say that FP2 was the final DLC, but that they weren't thinking of future plans "at the moment" (i.e the tail-end of FP 2's development)

Does anyone know where the full article is? And if so, assuming that guy's wrong and it does say that FP vol 2 is the final DLC, could we use that source instead? --[[User:Malistaticy|Malistaticy]] ([[User talk:Malistaticy|talk]]) 06:35, May 16, 2021 (EDT)
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