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:Just a user massively obsessed with making Link number one. He probaly didn't know standards either. Gave him a warning, so if he does it again, sure block. As of now, unsure as this user probaly belived that Link is awesome in everyway.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 05:06, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
:Just a user massively obsessed with making Link number one. He probaly didn't know standards either. Gave him a warning, so if he does it again, sure block. As of now, unsure as this user probaly belived that Link is awesome in everyway.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 05:06, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
::Inserting information that he knows is false is indeed considered vandalism. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 00:09, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
::Inserting information that he knows is false is indeed considered vandalism. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 00:09, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm going to believe that the user in question made their edits out of bad faith considering how the edits were made and the fact that they added the false information after they were reverted. The fact the user changed the information about Link's tier position and did it again when they were reverted the first time, counts as reinserting false information, something that is a blockable offense. While we could assume this is a new user not knowing that you're not allowed to post any opinion you want in an article, the fact that they repeatedly added false information about Link's position on the BBR's tier list is enough to block them for adding false information. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[File: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 00:33, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm going to believe that the user in question made their edits out of bad faith considering how the edits were made and the fact that they added the false information after they were reverted. The fact the user changed the information about Link's tier position and did it again when they were reverted the first time, counts as reinserting false information, something that is a blockable offense. While we could assume this is a new user not knowing that you're not allowed to post any opinion you want in an article, the fact that they repeatedly added false information about Link's position on the BBR's tier list is enough to block them for adding false information. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 00:33, September 28, 2010 (UTC)


{{IP|Andrew Hawkins}} <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 04:08, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
{{IP|Andrew Hawkins}} <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 04:08, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
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{{IP|Zelly12}} <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 03:34, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
{{IP|Zelly12}} <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 03:34, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
:That is not a vandal. It is a misguided user.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 05:15, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
:That is not a vandal. It is a misguided user.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 05:15, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
:Just because someone makes a page that isn't needed doesn't mean they are a vandal. Actually take a look at the content first. The content on the Kumatora page was obviously done out of good faith. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 07:08, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
:Just because someone makes a page that isn't needed doesn't mean they are a vandal. Actually take a look at the content first. The content on the Kumatora page was obviously done out of good faith. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 07:08, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
::The content of the page was "lol Kumatora has a crush on Lucas" and then there was an image of a hack. Definetly not good faith. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 15:32, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
::The content of the page was "lol Kumatora has a crush on Lucas" and then there was an image of a hack. Definetly not good faith. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 15:32, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes it was. The link was there. The user decided it was needed. And the lol was made by an unregistered user. The user wrote about her. Factual information boy.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 15:41, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes it was. The link was there. The user decided it was needed. And the lol was made by an unregistered user. The user wrote about her. Factual information boy.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 15:41, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
:::The content of the article was "Kumatora's Name in Japanese is bear.Most people do not know that.Kumatora has a crush on lucas!" with a picture of a texture hack. The article certainly does appear to me to have been created out of good faith. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 15:45, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
:::The content of the article was "Kumatora's Name in Japanese is bear.Most people do not know that.Kumatora has a crush on lucas!" with a picture of a texture hack. The article certainly does appear to me to have been created out of good faith. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 15:45, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm still unsure about whether you can call that good faith or not, but I guess he's not really a ''vandal''. Sorry about that confusion. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 16:46, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm still unsure about whether you can call that good faith or not, but I guess he's not really a ''vandal''. Sorry about that confusion. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 16:46, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
:::::Good faith means that the user fealt it was necessary. There was a red link, and the user decided to fill it, not knowing that it doesn't deserve a page. --<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 16:50, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
:::::Good faith means that the user fealt it was necessary. There was a red link, and the user decided to fill it, not knowing that it doesn't deserve a page. --<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 16:50, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
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{{IP|96.3.18.141}}<choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 01:23, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
{{IP|96.3.18.141}}<choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 01:23, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
:This IP has already been blocked. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 01:33, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
:This IP has already been blocked. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 01:33, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


{{IP|76.89.115.119}}<choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 22:04, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
{{IP|76.89.115.119}}<choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 22:04, August 21, 2010 (UTC)


{{IP|206.162.143.251}} This one I'm confused about, since he's created and contributed to several Smasher pages, yet vandalized at least one. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 14:18, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
{{IP|206.162.143.251}} This one I'm confused about, since he's created and contributed to several Smasher pages, yet vandalized at least one. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 14:18, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
:You know, you got the wrong IP. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 14:28, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
:You know, you got the wrong IP. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 14:28, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
::I'm sure that the IP is used by more than one person.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 14:40, August 17, 2010 (UTC)  
::I'm sure that the IP is used by more than one person.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 14:40, August 17, 2010 (UTC)  
:::No, Mr.Anon didn't include the full IP number before I made my post. He has now and the IP has been blocked. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 14:47, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
:::No, Mr.Anon didn't include the full IP number before I made my post. He has now and the IP has been blocked. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 14:47, August 17, 2010 (UTC)


{{IP|68.150.169.181}} <font face="sand" color="silver">[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#ff2000">Doctor Pain 99</font>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">C</font>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">T</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">E</font>]])</font> [[file:dp99.png]] 01:51, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
{{IP|68.150.169.181}} <font face="sand" color="silver">[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#ff2000">Doctor Pain 99</font>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">C</font>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">T</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">E</font>]])</font> [[file:dp99.png]] 01:51, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
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{{IP|71.225.233.74}} [[User:Dr. Pain 99|<span style="color:red">'''D'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<span style="color:orange">'''P'''</span>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<span style="color:yellow">'''99''' </span>]] [[File:dp99.png]]  02:02, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
{{IP|71.225.233.74}} [[User:Dr. Pain 99|<span style="color:red">'''D'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<span style="color:orange">'''P'''</span>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<span style="color:yellow">'''99''' </span>]] [[File:dp99.png]]  02:02, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
:How is this guy a vandal? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 02:05, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
:How is this guy a vandal? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 02:05, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry, I fucked up. I thought since someone used rollback against the guys edits he was a vandal; I didn't bother to check, because of i was afraid of freezing. Won't happen again. [[User:Dr. Pain 99|<span style="color:red">'''D'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<span style="color:orange">'''P'''</span>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<span style="color:yellow">'''99''' </span>]] [[File:dp99.png]]  02:11, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry, I fucked up. I thought since someone used rollback against the guys edits he was a vandal; I didn't bother to check, because of i was afraid of freezing. Won't happen again. [[User:Dr. Pain 99|<span style="color:red">'''D'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<span style="color:orange">'''P'''</span>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<span style="color:yellow">'''99''' </span>]] [[File:dp99.png]]  02:11, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
:::No, it's my fault. I used rollback against him as his edits seemed unncecesary at the time, an it's not like you can leave an explanation for rollback. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 04:39, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
:::No, it's my fault. I used rollback against him as his edits seemed unncecesary at the time, an it's not like you can leave an explanation for rollback. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 04:39, July 11, 2010 (UTC)
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==Image removal==
==Image removal==
It seems that multiple users, including Sonic64 and various IPs, cannot save the [[Palette swap (SSBB)]] page without all the images getting deleted. What the heck is going on? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> <small>[[Special:Contributions/Toomai|cntrbs]]</small> 22:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
It seems that multiple users, including Sonic64 and various IPs, cannot save the [[Palette swap (SSBB)]] page without all the images getting deleted. What the heck is going on? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> <small>[[Special:Contributions/Toomai|cntrbs]]</small> 22:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
:Correction: it seems that some users cannot edit '''any''' pages without the images being removed somehow. The problem seems to be unique to new users. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> <small>[[Special:Contributions/Toomai|cntrbs]]</small> 22:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
:Correction: it seems that some users cannot edit '''any''' pages without the images being removed somehow. The problem seems to be unique to new users. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> <small>[[Special:Contributions/Toomai|cntrbs]]</small> 22:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
::I tried editing a page with a new account and without being logged it, but I couldn't reproduce it. <span style="color:#4CBB17">--Posted by</span> [[User:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">Pikamander2</span>]] <small>[[User Talk:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">(Talk)</span>]]</small> at 23:42, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
::I tried editing a page with a new account and without being logged it, but I couldn't reproduce it. <span style="color:#4CBB17">--Posted by</span> [[User:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">Pikamander2</span>]] <small>[[User Talk:Pikamander2|<span style="color:#007FFF">(Talk)</span>]]</small> at 23:42, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
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Do we want to disable this RTE for all editors?  --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 17:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Do we want to disable this RTE for all editors?  --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 17:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:Auto Disable it, and if people want it enough, they can turn it on for themselves. New users won't be able to understand most likely.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 17:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:Auto Disable it, and if people want it enough, they can turn it on for themselves. New users won't be able to understand most likely.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 17:50, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::It might be a good idea to make an announcement. Something like "It has been discovered that Wikia's new Rich Text Editor causes problems such as image removal. Please disable it in your preferences." [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> <small>[[Special:Contributions/Toomai|cntrbs]]</small> 18:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::It might be a good idea to make an announcement. Something like "It has been discovered that Wikia's new Rich Text Editor causes problems such as image removal. Please disable it in your preferences." [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> <small>[[Special:Contributions/Toomai|cntrbs]]</small> 18:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::We can auto-disable it for all users on the wiki, who can re-enable it in their preferences if they wish. Imo that's a much easier solution that putting it in sitenotice, which most people ignore anyway. <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 18:43, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::We can auto-disable it for all users on the wiki, who can re-enable it in their preferences if they wish. Imo that's a much easier solution that putting it in sitenotice, which most people ignore anyway. <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 18:43, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree with Shadowcrest. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="khaki">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="khaki">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:56, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I agree with Shadowcrest. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="khaki">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="khaki">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:56, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
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==New users==
==New users==
Something that's been really annoying me recently is the amount of new users. Most of them don't even make any edits, just change their avatar. I'm not sure whether this is a great concern, but I fear it will clog up our space. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 04:16, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
Something that's been really annoying me recently is the amount of new users. Most of them don't even make any edits, just change their avatar. I'm not sure whether this is a great concern, but I fear it will clog up our space. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 04:16, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
:I don't see how this is a concern. The Smash Wiki always had new users who would create an account, maybe add an avatar, and then leave. There has been no disrupting influx of those. I have notice more new users editing the mainspace constructively and this is something that is good for the progress of the Wiki, not concerning or detrimental. As such, this is certainly not something that requires admin notification. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[File: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 19:02, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
:I don't see how this is a concern. The Smash Wiki always had new users who would create an account, maybe add an avatar, and then leave. There has been no disrupting influx of those. I have notice more new users editing the mainspace constructively and this is something that is good for the progress of the Wiki, not concerning or detrimental. As such, this is certainly not something that requires admin notification. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 19:02, September 22, 2010 (UTC)


== Leaving Wikia ==
== Leaving Wikia ==
Hi, I'm from NIWA and have made an offer to host SmashWiki on an independent domain, currently ssbwiki.com. There's a little more information [[User_talk:Shadowcrest#deh_new_poll|here]]. Are you guys interested in leaving Wikia? --[[User:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]] ([[User talk:Porplemontage|talk]]) 06:20, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I'm from NIWA and have made an offer to host SmashWiki on an independent domain, currently ssbwiki.com. There's a little more information [[User_talk:Shadowcrest#deh_new_poll|here]]. Are you guys interested in leaving Wikia? --[[User:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]] ([[User talk:Porplemontage|talk]]) 06:20, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
:No, but I don't have much of an opinion anyway and if that is what the community wants, then so be it. However, seeing how I may end up leaving anyway regardless, my opinion may not matter much. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[File: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 11:36, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
:No, but I don't have much of an opinion anyway and if that is what the community wants, then so be it. However, seeing how I may end up leaving anyway regardless, my opinion may not matter much. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 11:36, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
::I'd be more than willing to work on (/administrate if needed) a NIWA Smash-wiki. <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 20:22, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
::I'd be more than willing to work on (/administrate if needed) a NIWA Smash-wiki. <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 20:22, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
:::@Shadowcrest: Why? What excactly is wrong with Wikia? What can NIWA offer that Wikia can't? <span style="background-color:#008080"><b><font face="Helvetica" color="silver">[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#ff2000">''DP99''</font>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">C</font>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">T</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">E</font>]])</font> [[file:PAT.png]]</b></span> 21:57, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
:::@Shadowcrest: Why? What excactly is wrong with Wikia? What can NIWA offer that Wikia can't? <span style="background-color:#008080"><b><font face="Helvetica" color="silver">[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#ff2000">''DP99''</font>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">C</font>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">T</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">E</font>]])</font> [[file:PAT.png]]</b></span> 21:57, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
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:::::*Wikia is moving towards [http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Susan_Taylor/Experience_the_new_Wikia a new skin] that looks mandatory and darn horrendous.
:::::*Wikia is moving towards [http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Susan_Taylor/Experience_the_new_Wikia a new skin] that looks mandatory and darn horrendous.
:::::*Cross-wiki vandals; someone can make an account off-wiki to bring here without worrying about any bans.
:::::*Cross-wiki vandals; someone can make an account off-wiki to bring here without worrying about any bans.
:::::[[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 22:06, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
:::::[[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 22:06, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
::::LMFAO. Ask that again. What's wrong with wikia? More advertisements and server problems. NIWA can not have server problems because it's THAT good.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 22:03, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
::::LMFAO. Ask that again. What's wrong with wikia? More advertisements and server problems. NIWA can not have server problems because it's THAT good.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 22:03, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
:::::@Toomai: Keeping Checkuser away from most users isn't a bad thing, IMO. The ads link to other Wikis; I found goods wiki via ads a few times. I'll give you the other two, but the fact that one account isn't cross-wiki on NIWA is bad for normal users. @Megatron1: You are terrible at arguing. You made some sarcastic comments and gave no good reasons as to why NIWA is better. I already mentioned the ads thing, and NIWA has server problems as well. <span style="background-color:#008080"><b><font face="Helvetica" color="silver">[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#ff2000">''DP99''</font>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">C</font>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">T</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">E</font>]])</font> [[file:PAT.png]]</b></span> 22:14, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
:::::@Toomai: Keeping Checkuser away from most users isn't a bad thing, IMO. The ads link to other Wikis; I found goods wiki via ads a few times. I'll give you the other two, but the fact that one account isn't cross-wiki on NIWA is bad for normal users. @Megatron1: You are terrible at arguing. You made some sarcastic comments and gave no good reasons as to why NIWA is better. I already mentioned the ads thing, and NIWA has server problems as well. <span style="background-color:#008080"><b><font face="Helvetica" color="silver">[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#ff2000">''DP99''</font>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">C</font>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">T</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">E</font>]])</font> [[file:PAT.png]]</b></span> 22:14, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
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::::::::Other wikis note. Our community is different from them. And did I not just correct myself on server problems? NIWA has fewer server crashes. Those kill my cleanups and make me wait :P. Seeing as how you want to be instant on knowing what happend to your userpage, I want things to be instant as well. NIWA has fewer server crashes and if majority say yes on a new Wikia function, they'll probaly install it to whatever. Galleries for example were previously better to several older users. Wikia changed that.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 22:48, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Other wikis note. Our community is different from them. And did I not just correct myself on server problems? NIWA has fewer server crashes. Those kill my cleanups and make me wait :P. Seeing as how you want to be instant on knowing what happend to your userpage, I want things to be instant as well. NIWA has fewer server crashes and if majority say yes on a new Wikia function, they'll probaly install it to whatever. Galleries for example were previously better to several older users. Wikia changed that.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 22:48, September 27, 2010 (UTC)


After reading Salad's post, I'll change my opinion to supporting the defect. However, I still don't really care either way and if I end up staying on the Wiki, I'll go wherever the community goes. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[File: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 23:31, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
After reading Salad's post, I'll change my opinion to supporting the defect. However, I still don't really care either way and if I end up staying on the Wiki, I'll go wherever the community goes. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 23:31, September 27, 2010 (UTC)


There are two primary problems with us leaving here.
There are two primary problems with us leaving here.
*"www.smashwiki.com" is currently owned by Wikia (I believe), and it won't expire until June or something.
*"www.smashwiki.com" is currently owned by Wikia (I believe), and it won't expire until June or something.
*Anything we leave behind becomes fodder to anyone, depending on whether the technical process is a "move" or a "duplication". And if it is a "duplication", I'd rather raze the place once it's all copied over.
*Anything we leave behind becomes fodder to anyone, depending on whether the technical process is a "move" or a "duplication". And if it is a "duplication", I'd rather raze the place once it's all copied over.
[[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 23:47, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
[[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 23:47, September 27, 2010 (UTC)


I'm completely in favor of being independent of wikia. The only problem is, if we leave wikia, will we have to create new usernames? <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 00:14, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
I'm completely in favor of being independent of wikia. The only problem is, if we leave wikia, will we have to create new usernames? <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 00:14, September 28, 2010 (UTC)


I'm neutral and leaning towards oppose. I really don't care that much, but I've never had any problems on the wiki.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 01:40, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
I'm neutral and leaning towards oppose. I really don't care that much, but I've never had any problems on the wiki.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[Image:002MS.png]] 01:40, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
:The thing that bugs me is that wikia is a for profit organization, so they fill the wiki with ads. Furthemore, if feels creepy knowing that the mods you "elected" aren't really the ones in charge, as the wikia guys always have more power than them. I believe we once had a wikia staff member here (his name was Charitwo) who acted as a mod here. He was infamous for abusing his power a lot and treating nonadmins as lesser than admins. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 01:49, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
:The thing that bugs me is that wikia is a for profit organization, so they fill the wiki with ads. Furthemore, if feels creepy knowing that the mods you "elected" aren't really the ones in charge, as the wikia guys always have more power than them. I believe we once had a wikia staff member here (his name was Charitwo) who acted as a mod here. He was infamous for abusing his power a lot and treating nonadmins as lesser than admins. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 01:49, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
::I support leaving Wikia. My reasons are basically the same things mentioned already. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 01:52, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
::I support leaving Wikia. My reasons are basically the same things mentioned already. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 01:52, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

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