Talk:Joker (SSBU)

We've already got Robin, and we just got Joker....why do I feel like we're missing someone?152.26.211.26 04:22, 31 December 2018 (EST)

What? Batman? SeanWheeler (talk) 00:09, 1 January 2019 (EST)

This is not proper use of talk pages. Please refrain from these types of edits. JamesHeart 00:59, 1 January 2019 (EST)

Moveset

Where did they reveal he can wall jump and has a neutral rapid jab? 99.203.128.19 14:50, 5 January 2019 (EST) (preceding comment was by a signed out aykrivwassup)

It was datamined, apparently. The Twitter link showing the datamined content was mentioned in the edit summaries but wasn't added to the article. JamesHeart 00:10, 6 January 2019 (EST)

He is supposed to be faster than sonic. That is what I read from somewhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.178.29 (talk • contribs) 16:46, 5 February 2019 (EST)

Joker's Leaked Parameters

Is it really okay to put that stuff in the article?

For one thing, it's leaked content. Before the game's release, it was explicitly forbidden to add information from the leaked game or add framedata from pre-release demos, and I don't see how this is any different. Joker is under development and his framedata is subject to change.

What I believe is more damning though for maintaining SmashWiki integrity, is the fact that the data is not directly identified as "Joker", it's identified as "Jack". Now, "Jack" is obviously Joker (he's after "Packun" (Piranha Plant) and before "Brave"), but we don't know that for certain because it hasn't been officially confirmed. For all we know it could be Jack from MadWorld, or Raiden from Metal Gear Solid 2. Even if we're sure that it's Joker, we don't know how sure we can be and it's not the job of a wiki to take that chance.

With all this in mind, I'm probably going to make an account and start reverting the changes on various articles that refer to Joker's stats, replacing "Joker" with "Jack" and putting a footnote explaining the leak and the fact that "Jack" is generally believed to be Joker.

I'll wait a few days to do this, if nobody has any objections. 132.170.60.245 23:20, 9 February 2019 (EST)