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its just stupid...

ok i am just wondering y everyone has such a big problem changing from melee to brawl?... i am constantly hearing about people who REFUSE to play brawl with anything except for the gamecube controller, and i think that is stupid! i have played ssb since the original for the N64 and i made the transition from a controller with three handles on the N64 and ssb, to the one with two handles on the GC and ssbm and i have managed to make the transition to the one handled (notice a pattern? lol) wii remote for ssbb, i mean come on! stop throwing a fit because things got changed! its called SUPER SMASH BROS. BRAWL, NOT SUPER SMASH BROS. MELEE 1.5!!!! sure some of the nerfs sucked (trust me i know my main is samus, so i got some of the worst nerfs) but that doesnt make the nerfed chars. not playable, does it? i still do just fine with samus. they are still the same controls you just hold the controller differently. you still use B for special and A for smashes and tilts. and everyone mostly still has their characters, and if you dont they got replaced by someone similiar enough that you can use basically the same fighting style ex. mewtwo-lucario, young link-toon link. im sorry but people who complain about using wii remotes, or a couple nerfs on their main need to stop crying and GET OVER IT!-Ssnake ssamus 03:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I personally haven't converted because there's less buttons, not because of the shape or the number of handles. With more buttons, I have more precise functionality at my fingertips. Btw, please be nicer with your comments in the future. =) --Sky (t · c · w) 04:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I just have trouble associating Specials with my right index finger. and it's too hard to remember/perform the various taunts and moves on the "extra" buttons. - Gargomon251 15:33, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

ok... i play with the wii remote and the nunchuk and i see no crucial differences. the jump is still up on the control stick or you can program another button to be jump if you want, there is still b and a and all of the variations of the moves there is still the sheild button in basically the same spot the z button has been replaced with the d-pad to throw items and grab the d-pad has been replaced with the 1 and 2 buttons for taunts start has been replaced with the plus button. the only thing that doesnt have the same purpose or a replacement is the c stick which has been converted into a button. so i still have the same functionality as i did because i never used the c stick for my smash attacks, and i dont think it is that much harder to press an extra button while holding the joystick. and as for gargomon, i am sorry for being mean but, you are either a slow learner or REALLY stubborn because it took me a total of ten minutes to get used to the new button placement, like i said sorry. and does it really matter whether you perform the exact taunt you want when you do a taunt? taunts dont have any affect on the actual gameplay except maybe making the other player mad and leaving you wide open for attack.--Ssnake ssamus 17:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

one of the reasons I don't use the gamecube or classic controller is because I never really liked hitting up on the control stick to jump. but that is just my preference. everyone has their own preferences, and they're all different. you like to use the wiimote and nunchuck, others like just the wii remote, some like classic controller, and some like to stay in their comfort zone with the gamecube controller. plus, I'm just not as good with the other controls, and I'm sure other people are the same way. PeetzaLink 20:58, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

You see no crucial difference? For one, SHFFLing, while removed in SSBB (in that you no longer need to L-cancel), is still a large part of the play, and the C-stick is crucial to performing certain attacks in the air, such as the slower characters: Roy (in SSBM) or Ike in SSBB. Also, the C-stick requires much less precision to make a Smash work: I hit a direction. Control-stick + A to me is more for Tilt attacks, which require a much finer usage of the Control-stick. I would rather practice tilts with Control than smashes with control.

The taunt: Yes, they actually do have an effect on the game. While I haven't played Brawl enough to know about all the taunts, in SSBM Luigi's taunt was a Meteor smash. Now, I imagine that one or two of the taunts in SSBB also has that potential, and so being able to taunt in all directions is, again, worthwhile to me, if not Garg.

Furthermore, I've never jumped using the control stick. Again, not enough precision. Short hops come much easier with the Gamecube pad (ie, x/y) then they ever have with the stick.

It just seems that the extra buttons the Gamecube pad provide allow for more refinement than that you seek. Maybe I'm wrong in this; I haven't tried the Wii version, but then, I have no inclination to do so. --Sky (t · c · w) 22:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I have played all controls except CC and I prefer the gamecube remote.Jman97 22:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC) the j