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== Possibilities and Impossibilities ==
== Possibilities and Impossibilities ==
It's very obvious Dixie Kong, Bowser Jr., Waluigi, King K. Rool, Ridley, Porky, Chrom, Demise, Yuga, Vaati, Lucina, Mii, Sora, Cloud, Shadow the Hedgehog, Tails, Geno, Zero, Goku and Pac-Man won't be in the game as playable characters. As for returning characters not returning, it'll be ROB, Snake, Young Link, Pichu, Dr. Mario, Falco, Meta Knight and Lucas. Any other veteran is just fine, but I think that we will also be seeing the return of '''Melee's Link and Zelda''' since we have Gerudo Valley in the 3DS version.
It's very obvious Dixie Kong, Bowser Jr., Waluigi, King K. Rool, Ridley, Porky, Chrom, Demise, Yuga, Vaati, Lucina, Mii, Sora, Cloud, Shadow the Hedgehog, Tails, Geno, Zero, Goku and Pac-Man probably won't be in the game as playable characters. As for returning characters likely not returning, it'll be ROB, Snake, Young Link, Pichu, Dr. Mario, Falco, Meta Knight and Lucas. Any other veteran is just fine, but I think that we will also be seeing the return of '''Melee's Link and Zelda''' since we have Gerudo Valley in the 3DS version.


But these are my predictions for newcomers, and the ones in '''bold''' are 3rd Party characters, and I will list reasons why:
But these are my predictions for newcomers, and the ones in '''bold''' are 3rd Party characters, and I will list reasons why:
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*Krystal - She is the top ranked Star Fox character to be a newcomer. She is very likely since she won't be a clone or semi-clone of Fox, and a possible replacement for Falco the Fox semi-clone. She is has her staff and a possible original moveset for her.
*Krystal - She is the top ranked Star Fox character to be a newcomer. She is very likely since she won't be a clone or semi-clone of Fox, and a possible replacement for Falco the Fox semi-clone. She is has her staff and a possible original moveset for her.
*Palutena - The top ranked Kid Icarus to be a newcomer and top ranked overall female. She is very likely, as her moveset would consist of her shield and staff, and she is a female character. Of course, if the "leaks" happen to be real...
*Palutena - The top ranked Kid Icarus to be a newcomer and top ranked overall female. She is very likely, as her moveset would consist of her shield and staff, and she is a female character. Of course, if the "leaks" happen to be real...
*Simon Belmont - Okay, we need a Castlevania character in the series, and he is the obvious choice. He has an arsenal of weapons that make him as defensive as Link. However, he would be much more of a long ranged fighter because of his whip.
*'''Pyramid Head''' - We need villains in the series, we need a horror character, and Snake will probably not return, so who better to fit all this than Pyramid Head? He seems like a hard-ball type of character to be, but he would be a great fit. His moveset would be slow but extremely powerful, because he would be able to use his signature sword, or it could be balanced out since he also has his spear, too. If you think about it, Pyramid Head seems to be a great choice for a villain. There have also been some Silent Hill games on the Nintendo consoles, too.
*Black Shadow - Another villain, and another needed rep for the F-Zero series. He would be a great opponent against Captain Falcon, and could also have his own original moveset, as well, but it would be an unknown moveset.
*'''Leon S. Kennedy''' - Before you go into the whole, "Oh, he can't be in, he uses guns and we already have a Capcom character and stuff!!!1!11!", let me give you reasons why he should be in. You see, Leon would be a great replacement for Snake, especially since the two can use grenades. However, Leon has skills with the knife, making him even better to be a fighter in the game, and he also has the Rocket Launcher, Special Rocket Launcher, Mine Thrower and various other non-gun weapons. Leon would be a fast, balanced character in the game, with a great recovery. And even though we have Mega Man, it doesn't mean we won't have another 3rd Party representative, let alone another Capcom character. And remember, Resident Evil has appeared on Nintendo consoles, as well.
*'''Leon S. Kennedy''' - Before you go into the whole, "Oh, he can't be in, he uses guns and we already have a Capcom character and stuff!!!1!11!", let me give you reasons why he should be in. You see, Leon would be a great replacement for Snake, especially since the two can use grenades. However, Leon has skills with the knife, making him even better to be a fighter in the game, and he also has the Rocket Launcher, Special Rocket Launcher, Mine Thrower and various other non-gun weapons. Leon would be a fast, balanced character in the game, with a great recovery. And even though we have Mega Man, it doesn't mean we won't have another 3rd Party representative, let alone another Capcom character. And remember, Resident Evil has appeared on Nintendo consoles, as well.
*'''Lloyd Irving''' - Now, we need a Namco representative, and he is the most wanted Namco representative...that's not Goku nor Pac-Man (for fuck's sake, they won't fucking be in, damn Miiverse users). As a character, Lloyd could also use dual wielded weapons. As we see in Super Smash Flash 2, a Smash Bros. fan game, Lloyd could obviously have a very original moveset that would fit him. He would use Demon Fang, Grave Blade, Sonic Thrust and Rising Falcon as his specials, since they would fit him best for these.
*'''Lloyd Irving''' - Now, we need a Namco representative, and he is the most wanted Namco representative...that's not Goku nor Pac-Man (for fuck's sake, they won't fucking be in, damn Miiverse users). As a character, Lloyd could also use dual wielded weapons. As we see in Super Smash Flash 2, a Smash Bros. fan game, Lloyd could obviously have a very original moveset that would fit him. He would use Demon Fang, Grave Blade, Sonic Thrust and Rising Falcon as his specials, since they would fit him best for these.
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:Oh, for one more thing, your rationale for Pyramid Head is the series needs more villains, but then say K. Rool and Ridley, two main antagonists from big underrepresented Nintendo series, are "very obviously not making it in". Like what? In what world would Sakurai snub these two heavily requested main antagonists for a third party villain from a not that big and very non-Nintedo oriented franchise? Also, for your "there has been some Silent Hill games on Nintendo", there has been only exactly one [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Hill:_Shattered_Memories Silent Hill game] for a Nintendo console, that didn't sell particularly well, and Pyramid Head isn't even in (so he never appeared on a Nintendo console). This list really seems more of a "I want this" rather than actual rational predictions. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 01:20, 23 February 2014 (EST)
:Oh, for one more thing, your rationale for Pyramid Head is the series needs more villains, but then say K. Rool and Ridley, two main antagonists from big underrepresented Nintendo series, are "very obviously not making it in". Like what? In what world would Sakurai snub these two heavily requested main antagonists for a third party villain from a not that big and very non-Nintedo oriented franchise? Also, for your "there has been some Silent Hill games on Nintendo", there has been only exactly one [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Hill:_Shattered_Memories Silent Hill game] for a Nintendo console, that didn't sell particularly well, and Pyramid Head isn't even in (so he never appeared on a Nintendo console). This list really seems more of a "I want this" rather than actual rational predictions. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 01:20, 23 February 2014 (EST)
:I did make a mistake, there was another Nintendo Silent Hill...which was a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Hill:_Play_Novel#Adaptations obscure visual novel] released on the GBA only in Japan, which also didn't have Pyramid Head on it. So yeah, even Metal Gear has had a significantly greater Nintendo presence and absolutely no Nintendo presence for Pyramid Head. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 01:31, 23 February 2014 (EST)
:I did make a mistake, there was another Nintendo Silent Hill...which was a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Hill:_Play_Novel#Adaptations obscure visual novel] released on the GBA only in Japan, which also didn't have Pyramid Head on it. So yeah, even Metal Gear has had a significantly greater Nintendo presence and absolutely no Nintendo presence for Pyramid Head. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 01:31, 23 February 2014 (EST)
::Oh yeah, that's right. Well, I guess Harry or Heather Mason would be a better choice than PH, would they? As such, I deleted him from the possibles. But enough about that, now I am going to list WHY the "newcomer-type: characters I listed that won't be in, won't.
::First off, Dixie Kong, Bowser Jr. and Waluigi. Now, as we all know, Diddy Kong and Little Mac were confirmed on the two days DK:TF was released in the respective regions. As such, it would be impossible for Dixie Kong to be a fully playable character; there are possibilities, however, that she would be an alternate or assist, much like the Male Wii Fit Trainer. As for Bowser Jr. and Waluigi, the new Mario rep, Rosalina and Luma, takes their place. Rosalina seemed improbable at first, while Bowser Jr. and Waluigi were more wanted than her, but Nintendo decided to pick Rosalina and not those two.
::Now for Ridley, Porky, Demise and King K. Rool. You may think they would be good additions, right? Wrong. First off, they would be '''massive''' in size. They would all have to be bigger than Bowser, or the comparable size to Giga Bowser. They would be too large a target each, and way too heavy. Before you say, "Oh, they can be shortened.", think about the size of Bowser; he's the largest character in height. Demise is 1.5x bigger than Bowser, and King K. Rool is twice the size of him; and Bowser's height is solely taken from New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Taking this to account, Porky and Ridley would be 3 and 4 times the size of Bowser, respectively. Now that that's out of the way, attacks. All 3 would have too complicated or terrible movesets; they would be the same speed as Ganondorf from Brawl, if not slower. And finally, none of them would have a decent Final Smash, as their Final Smashes would probably be slow, as well; sure they could one hit kill, but they'd have to be extremely slow. Also haven't you taken into account that they'd probably walk like Bowser from Brawl, and have terrible running speed; a bit slower than Ganondorf's.
::Chrom and Lucina are highly improbable, since their attack styles would be clones or semi-clones of Marth's. They'd have little to no originality, and they just seem too generic of fighters. Also, there's a higher probability that Roy or Ike would return.
::We know little to nothing about Yuga's abilities, other than turning characters into a painting, turning himself into graffiti, and just all of YuGanon's attacks. I mean, Bowser Jr. would be a better choice than Yuga, but that still won't happen. I won't even go into Vaati, who would have a Zelda-esque moveset.
::The only thing about Miis that would be possible is if they were background characters. If they were playable, they would have a generic Mario moveset and be a waste of time and space for the game.
::Now we go into the Sega characters, Shadow and Tails. Look, I'll be blunt, despite popularity, they just won't be in. First of all, that'd make two Sega characters; that would mean that Snake would be impossible to be brought back whatsoever, should there be a limit of three 3rd party characters. Plus, Shadow would have a similar moveset to Sonic, and Tails...he would be terrible at the game.
::Now for the Square Enix characters, Sora, Cloud and Geno. Despite them all being on Nintendo consoles, they wouldn't fit. Cloud started off on Playstation, first of all, and Sora is more Playstation; especially since Kingdom Hearts III will appear on Playstation 4 (and XBOX One), and not Wii U. As for Geno, he appeared in one, ONE Nintendo game. He is also owned by Square Enix, a company that goes mainly on Playstation. Plus, we have not seen a single Geno reference in any Mario game since Legend of the Seven Stars. He is just like the Tails Doll, a one game character. Sorry, but Geno...he is not going to be in.
::Finally, Zero, Goku and Pac-Man. Okay, let's start with Zero; one, like I explained about Shadow, he'd make it impossible for Snake to be back in, should the limit be 3 3rd parties. Two, he would be a copy of Link, and three, we don't need two Capcom representatives '''from the same series.''' Now onto Goku; he's 4th Party, enough said. And for Pac-Man...do we really want a generic Mario/Kirby clone? Seriously, his moveset would be a copy of Mario and Kirby's, leaving little to no imagination.
::Now to end this, Sakurai only specified that there'd be three third party characters '''IN BRAWL''', but he never specified the limit in the upcoming Smash game, meaning we could have 4 or 5 third party representatives, or even the whole damn cast of Street Fighter II; though in the SFII cast's case, they'd most likely all would be Assist Trophies. But I still find it highly unlikely that the ones I described above will make it. I'm not trolling/trying to troll, I'm just trying to state my opinion about the characters.
::Now, who wants to hear something interesting about the 3DS versions of Link and Zelda? [[User:Requiem of Ice|Requiem of Ice]] ([[User talk:Requiem of Ice|talk]]) 18:48, 23 February 2014 (EST)